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Windows 7: Any other ways to send large .avi files ?

03 Jan 2015   #11
badcrc

Windows 7 Pro x64 sp1
 
 

@ Arcadian

re: YouTube vs Vimeo - I make animation video's using Cinema 4D, so maybe a comparison to home movies is not totally correct, however, when I have uploaded 1080p content to YouTube my stuff looks pretty dire due to to YT's compression. It's understandable that they lower the bitrate - their bandwidth bills must be astronomical. I recently took a 200/year Vimeo Pro deal and my movies on Vimeo look almost as good as the originals on my HDD. Sure they process the vids, but they recommend you upload at a higher bitrate than the streaming figure, to get the best results eg I upload @ 30Mbit, and the streams end up at about 5Mbit. YMMV re home movies.

Although YouTube might be good enough for your purposes (do a test), AFAIK YT have a 10 min limit (in comparison, one of my Vimeo vids is 1 hour - not poss on YT), but hey - it's free. The free Vimeo is a bit limited - 500MB/week, Plus is 5GB/week and Pro is 20GB/week. I think the prices on their site are before tax.

My stuff is mainly of interest to other animators eg tutorials, but you're welcome to have a peek
https://vimeo.com/user32158598

Whether you opt for video hosting or OneDrive/Dropbox etc, you've still got to upload 20GB+.


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03 Jan 2015   #12
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Thanks for all this, very useful and helpful indeed though a little over my head at the moment....

I think I'll go with YouTube keeping it to just over 20GB each time then there's no weekly or monthly time limits as it's usually just after international holiday breaks. Do you know about the uploading times with YT ? Will it firstly take just as long ? And secondly wouldn't 20GB + need more than 10 minutes to play or is it all split up to suit first ?
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03 Jan 2015   #13
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arcadian View Post
Do you know about the uploading times with YT ? Will it firstly take just as long ? And secondly wouldn't 20GB + need more than 10 minutes to play or is it all split up to suit first ?
Uploading time doesn't depends on what service you use, it's all about your connection speed. 20GB will take hours to send (no matter where) in the best case. Youtube/DropBox/Torrent/FTP/Whatever won't make upload faster as it depends only on your computer and connection, but different services may improve download speeds afterwards.

Don't worry too much about where to upload, as long as it meets your requirements for privacy and quality.
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03 Jan 2015   #14
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Movie Maker (free) in Vista was fairly good, I'm not as pleased with the Windows Essentials version though.

Try loading the source AVI into movie maker and saving the movie (not the project). I think it offers size/quality (small/eMail, medium/web, and large/dvd) options.

I've alos used Cyperpower ($$)- they offer a trial that you could play with.

Saving your movie does take some time, but it's not unbearable if you sacrifice quality for size.
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03 Jan 2015   #15
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Twists and turns ! I'm beginning to get the whole picture now thanks everyone.

Thinking back I'm beginning to think the simplest and cheapest way all round would be to send the memory card through the post to Australia....?
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03 Jan 2015   #16
badcrc

Windows 7 Pro x64 sp1
 
 

re: YouTube 10 mins - a quick Google tells me that default max is 15 mins, but you can 'verify' your account (needs a mobile phone) to have the limit removed, although if you've had copyright notices in the past, this may count against you. In fact, editing your footage into a set of 10-15 min clips might be the best way to organize things.
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04 Jan 2015   #17
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Thanks....

Looking at it all from another tangent are there any better and quicker alternatives than .avi given all these difficulties, as I'm thinking it might be easier in the long run to buy another camera and avoid using .avi altogether ?
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04 Jan 2015   #18
HarriePateman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
This thread immediately remembered me the following xkcd comic


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HarriePateman View Post
You could zip the file and put a password on the .ZIP.

Upload to a torrent website and send the link to your family.

Torrents are perfectly legal when used the right way.
Torrents are always legal (it's just a protocol). What you put inside them may be not, of course.
What site does allows such thing? I don't know any site that allows uploading of personal torrents, but some might be useful. Zipping will be of no use with videos (they're already aggressively compressed). Only the torrent would be uploaded, as badcrc correctly points, your computer will then upload the data itself when the other party connects.

But anyway, the real problem is that the upstream bandwidth is probably too little for the 20GB the OP says, unless he has a really good connection. Real life mail seems a good option here.
Read again.
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04 Jan 2015   #19
badcrc

Windows 7 Pro x64 sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arcadian View Post
Thanks....

Looking at it all from another tangent are there any better and quicker alternatives than .avi given all these difficulties, as I'm thinking it might be easier in the long run to buy another camera and avoid using .avi altogether ?
Actually, I did wonder if your movie clips were a bit large due to avi (hence the 20GB). You could prob lower the file sizes by converting to mp4 at a lower bitrate (and poss smaller framesize) using Handbrake eg 1 hour at 1.5Mbit is about 700MB and still OK quality. You can set several clips to convert and leave it running overnight. If you reduced the 20GB somewhat, you could send the clips using, say, Dropbox. Dropbox is quite easy to use, and once the clips are uploaded you just email the link and the recipient downloads them. IIRC, if you use mp4, the clips can also be played straight from Dropbox. You get 2GB free with Dropbox, so you could send the clips 2GB at a time. You might also want to look at the free editor AviDemux - if you cut your mp4 clips on an I frame, there's no recoding.

https://handbrake.fr/
avidemux | SourceForge.net
https://www.dropbox.com/
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04 Jan 2015   #20
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Thanks for all the time you're giving !

I did try Dropbox and Amazon but still the same old 10/11 hours involved, also mp4 ditto using Handbrake. I thought about Skysoft video editor but it was almost impossible to choose anything to remove as most of the family had taken turns at videoing themselves so I'd be thrown out the house if I dared suggest it ! You know what 10 to 17 year olds are like plus I haven't seen the cat for ages.

So after a big and very noisy conflab half an hour ago everyone's for posting the memory card making a spare copy just in case. So many thanks again to everyone for all the suggestions and their time.

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To avoid this problem again are there video cameras that don't use .avi but can do the same thing in a fraction of the time...?
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