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Windows 7: New Irfanview now available in 64 bit version

13 Nov 2015   #11
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

The extra speed should be noticeable when doing batch operations.


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13 Nov 2015   #12
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by strollin View Post
The extra speed should be noticeable when doing batch operations.
As I said, it wouldn't be noticeable unless doing several hundred at a time. The most I've ever done at a time is 120 and it was a onetime project.
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13 Nov 2015   #13
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
The benches look impressive but in real time usage, a 38% increase from 78/100 of a second isn't going to be at all noticeable unless working with several hundred images or files at a time.
Nonetheless it does seem to be faster (on my PC).
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18 Nov 2015   #14
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Multimedia

One thing I've noticed is that I have to manually start the multimedia tool on the 64 bit version.

IrfanView 4.38 (32 bit) would start the multimedia tool (automatically) based on the file's extension (e.g. wav files would start the audio player).
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18 Nov 2015   #15
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
One thing I've noticed is that I have to manually start the multimedia tool on the 64 bit version.

IrfanView 4.38 (32 bit) would start the multimedia tool (automatically) based on the file's extension (e.g. wav files would start the audio player).
I don't get that problem. I open a WAV file with IrfanView and it plays. Same goes for other media files.

Note: I did a clean install of Irfanview and plugins having removed the old version. I did not associate any file types on install.

Maybe try the settings - open a sound file and choose "Properties" on the menubar.

Here's what I see and as far as I know it shows the default settings as I have not changed them.

New Irfanview now available in 64 bit version-ifranview-wav.jpg

Note: My default player for audio is MusicBee

My default player for video is PotPlayer


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19 Nov 2015   #16
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

I had a look at those settings but I didn't change any.
They are set the same as in the 32 bit version.

In W7 & W10:
  • The 32 bit version (which I haven't updated) still works the same as always
  • The 64 bit version needs me to manually start and load the multimedia plugin
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19 Nov 2015   #17
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Maybe having two versions installed could be a problem but I don't see how as the settings should be independent. I took a look in %Userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\IrfanView and I just see an .ini file for the 64bit version.

I see these settings are the default ones for extensions and WAV files should load.
New Irfanview now available in 64 bit version-properties_settings.jpg
What happens if you run Irfanview as administrator?

Also going back to the image loading speed - looking at the changes detailed in:

C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_changes.txt

it does state the following:

The 64-bit version is faster for very large images (25+ Megapixels)


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20 Nov 2015   #18
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Weird

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Maybe having two versions installed could be a problem but I don't see how as the settings should be independent. I took a look in %Userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\IrfanView and I just see an .ini file for the 64bit version.

I see these settings are the default ones for extensions and WAV files should load.
I also have various audio and video extensions listed in that text box.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
What happens if you run Irfanview as administrator?
I'm not sure how to start IrfanView as Administrator when opening it from a file's context menu (e.g. wav).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Also going back to the image loading speed - looking at the changes detailed in:
I was going to post a new comparison as it occurred to me that after loading an image it may still be in RAM.

After performing an OS restart after each attempt, the time difference was much greater:
  • The 32 bit version to ~1100ms
  • The 64 bit version still took 78ms
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20 Nov 2015   #19
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
What happens if you run Irfanview as administrator?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I'm not sure how to start IrfanView as Administrator when opening it from a file's context menu (e.g. wav).
The only way I can think of is to right click on the executable then:

Properties> Compatibility

then set to run as administrator. Somehow I do not think that this could be the problem but it might be worth checking. I note that on my machine I login using an admin account and UAC is disabled. UAC has been replaced by VoodooShield. I just mention it (for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread) because obviously it's not a good idea to disable UAC under normal circumstances.

I see that Ifranview 64bit still uses some 32bit plugins located in a folder inside C:\Program Files\IrfanView\Plugins

IV_PLAYER.EXE - This PlugIn allows IrfanView to play video/sound/audio-cd files using MS Media Player interface.
(AVI, MPG, WAV, MIDI, CDA, WMA, ASF, AIF, SND, WMA/WMV)

Appears to be a 64bit plugin. I do not have MS Media Player.

Perhaps you could see if Irfanview loads a track (WAV format) if you type this into the Start> Run dialog box.

"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view64.exe" "C:\full path to WAV file"

What I would do is fully remove both versions of Irfanview including leftover registry entries then reboot and fresh install the 64bit version and plugins to see if you get the same problem.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I was going to post a new comparison as it occurred to me that after loading an image it may still be in RAM.

After performing an OS restart after each attempt, the time difference was much greater:
  • The 32 bit version to ~1100ms
  • The 64 bit version still took 78ms
That appears to be significant!
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21 Nov 2015   #20
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
"Curiouser and curiouser!"

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Perhaps you could see if Irfanview loads a track (WAV format) if you type this into the Start> Run dialog box.

"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view64.exe" "C:\full path to WAV file"
That command works the same in both versions (i.e. they both start the player that I normally see).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
What I would do is fully remove both versions of Irfanview including leftover registry entries then reboot and fresh install the 64bit version and plugins to see if you get the same problem.
It looks like I have no choice but to see if this fixes this.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I was going to post a new comparison as it occurred to me that after loading an image it may still be in RAM.

After performing an OS restart after each attempt, the time difference was much greater:
  • The 32 bit version to ~1100ms
  • The 64 bit version still took 78ms
That appears to be significant!
The times are highly variable.
I just tried again and the 32 bit version took ~125ms.

Update
I just changed the settings around and now both versions behave in a similar fashion.
New Irfanview now available in 64 bit version-irfanview-32-bit-vs-64-bit-02.png


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