| Windows 7: 32 bit software on Win 7 Pro 64bit |
03 Jan 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 High desert of Central Oregon |
32 bit software on Win 7 Pro 64bit How much trouble is it to install legacy apps on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit?. when I say legacy I mean apps like Quicken 99 or WordPerfect 2002. I just received this computer at the beginning of the week and just got it set up yesterday. I haven't begun to reinstall all my critical apps and probably won't until I can get the Internet connection up and running (need a router) but I wondered if there were going to be any problems and what to look out for?
thanks... | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 320ghz Memory 4gbDDR2 800mhz Graphics Card Nvidia Gforce 9800 Sound Card Creative Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays NEC Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Hard Drives 500gb ATA
320gb ATA |
03 Jan 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Go ahead and try. If you have problems, you could download and use Windows XP mode to install any problematic apps. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 Motherboard Gigabyte GA EX58-UD3R Memory 6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer H213H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Ultra LSP 750 Pro Case NZXT Tempest Cooling 6 case fans + CPU fan Hard Drives WD Caviar Green 1 TB |
03 Jan 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Hello DFWII Experimentation with the XP compatibility mode is one way to find out if any older programs will first install and then even run on the 64bit 7. It seems older 9X-XP pc games fair better then desktop apps in general for the 64bit 7 however.
For the new XP Mode the first thing to know is covered in the guide on this. Windows XP Mode - Install and Setup
If you decided to go for the XP Mode you first need to run the appropiate tool for Intel or AMD found at Windows Virtual PC: Configure BIOS This will show if your hardwares support virtualization.
Certain Intel model cpus do not offer support or the board itself may need a bios setting changed. For some old XP apps they are on the 32bit 7 while they simply won't run on the 64bit. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
03 Jan 2010
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#4 | | XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64) Cairns, Australia |
Hi DWFII,
running 32 bit apps isn't usually a problem, although some older programs may require you to use Compatibility Mode to run properly.
Much older 16 bit apps won't run on a 64 bit system, which also means that if a program uses a 16 bit installer, it won't be compatible, unless used in xp mode. Like p3jason said, the best way to tell is to give it a go  ... if it doesn't work, it may be a good opportunity to update some old software, or to learn some new ones. | My System Specs | | OS XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64) CPU Core 2 Duo E8500 @ stock Motherboard Gigabyte EP45-UD3R Memory 8Gb (4 X 2Gb) Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz DDR2 Graphics Card XFX ATI Radeon 4870 1Gb Sound Card Onboard 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays BenQ E2200Hd, Asus VW161D, HP L1506 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU CoolerMaster 650 EPD Case Thermaltake Cooling 2 X Noctua 120mm's, Stock Intel Hard Drives Seagate 7200.12 500Gb
2 X Hitachi 1Tb |
03 Jan 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
In the long run you want to consider a much newer Word 2007 to replace the 8yr. old 2002 version since that will simply go on without fuss. The home page for that is seen here. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...487981033.aspx
As for Quicken the new 2010 version is available with full support for 7 seen at Quicken® Home & Business 2010 Software: Home Based & Small Business Management
One way to see if the 2002 version will even install would be right clicking on the setup or install executable and setting that to the XP compatibility. Once on do the same for the program's main executable there as well as the "run as admin" for both. If there's no go then you know! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
04 Jan 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 High desert of Central Oregon |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk Hello DFWII Experimentation with the XP compatibility mode is one way to find out if any older programs will first install and then even run on the 64bit 7. It seems older 9X-XP pc games fair better then desktop apps in general for the 64bit 7 however.
For the new XP Mode the first thing to know is covered in the guide on this. Windows XP Mode - Install and Setup
If you decided to go for the XP Mode you first need to run the appropiate tool for Intel or AMD found at Windows Virtual PC: Configure BIOS This will show if your hardwares support virtualization.
Certain Intel model cpus do not offer support or the board itself may need a bios setting changed. For some old XP apps they are on the 32bit 7 while they simply won't run on the 64bit.  Thanks for the help. Dell assured me that my cpu will support virtualization...in fact it was an upgrade (more $'s) from the basic configuration of the package. I believe my "system specs" indicate the cpu I'm running.
But my first question is what is the difference between XP mode and Virtual PC? Both seem to be additional pieces of software that must be downloaded and installed. I bought Win 7 Professional because I was told that it was needed to run legacy apps. Is either XP Mode Or Virtual PC already included in Professional, by any chance?
My next question is about right clicking on the setup executable when it is almost certain to be on a CD. Is right-clicking on it and setting it to run in XP mode telling Windows to do something or is it trying to alter the executable? (awkwardly expressed but maybe you get my drift?)
Thanks for the links, I have them bookmarked. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 320ghz Memory 4gbDDR2 800mhz Graphics Card Nvidia Gforce 9800 Sound Card Creative Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays NEC Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Hard Drives 500gb ATA
320gb ATA |
04 Jan 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by DWFII But my first question is what is the difference between XP mode and Virtual PC? Both seem to be additional pieces of software that must be downloaded and installed. I bought Win 7 Professional because I was told that it was needed to run legacy apps. Is either XP Mode Or Virtual PC already included in Professional, by any chance? Virtual PC is app that creates the virtual machine in which Windows XP mode can run. They are not included with Windows 7, but Pro or Ultimate is required for installation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 Motherboard Gigabyte GA EX58-UD3R Memory 6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer H213H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Ultra LSP 750 Pro Case NZXT Tempest Cooling 6 case fans + CPU fan Hard Drives WD Caviar Green 1 TB |
04 Jan 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 High desert of Central Oregon |
What is the difference between compatibility mode and XP mode? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 320ghz Memory 4gbDDR2 800mhz Graphics Card Nvidia Gforce 9800 Sound Card Creative Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays NEC Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Hard Drives 500gb ATA
320gb ATA |
04 Jan 2010
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#9 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
Windows Virtual PC: Home Page
XP Mode is XP that you get from the above link and install into Virtual PC (again from the above link). You then start Virtual PC (can auto start with 7, or run on demand), and install those apps that won't run in 7 x64, and use them from there.
As for Compatibility Mode, Make older programs run in this version of Windows | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
04 Jan 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
When right clicking on the setup.exe or launcher.exe, etc. at the root of a software cd or dvd to set the compatibility mode there Windows will create a new registry value to set the mode for that particular software's installer. I found that one out fast when the beta builds were first on for getting some old XP apps running on 7.
Another tool seen with 7 added since Vista is the troubleshoot compatibility option in the right click menu. This is a new tool that first has you open a program's installer to work through any installation problems and prompts asking if the program installed correctly. This is another item that makes 7 better at backward compatibility before the need of the XP Mode or other VM ware to run an older version. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi 32 bit software on Win 7 Pro 64bit problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 PM. | |