| Windows 7: Windows 7 Defragmenter, just as good as Diskeeper? |
06 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Windows 7 Defragmenter, just as good as Diskeeper? I have been a Diskeeper user for 2 years and recently after I switched to windows 7 I was googling a lot for a defragger. I came across many sites saying that Windows 7's built-in defragger is just as good as diskeeper. Is that true? If it is then I don't have to pay for defragmenter like diskeeper anymore.
*I thought Windows's built-in defrag = Diskeeper Lite | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz Motherboard P55A-G55(MS-7668) Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (5-5-5-18) Graphics Card GeForce GTX 260 Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays LG L1752T Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft Habu Laser Gaming Mouse PSU Now - I don't know, Before - OCZ MOD X STREAM-PRO 600W Case Antec 300 Versatile Mini Tower Cooling Fan X2 Hard Drives OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device (111GB)
ST350032 ATA Device (488GB) Internet Speed Telus Optik High Speed - Download Speed (15.0 Mbps) |
06 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
The built in defragger is fine for Windows 7, it was made for it. You can use the free defraggler, which is also very good.
Dont defrag too often. 3 or 4 times a year tops, unless you install and uninstall a lot. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
06 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The free program Auslogics will defrag a drive in minutes even when compared to the builtin defrag tool in 7. Auslogics Disk Defrag Review - Auslogics Disk Defrag Download - Softpedia
Diskkeeper was tried out back in the XP days but found rather obsolete for Vista with the SuperFetch keeping the drives maintained in low key and still low fragmentation seen with 7. The Auslogics program however simply works at a much faster pace then seen with anything else. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
06 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Microhard I have been a Diskeeper user for 2 years and recently after I switched to windows 7 I was googling a lot for a defragger. I came across many sites saying that Windows 7's built-in defragger is just as good as diskeeper. Is that true? If it is then I don't have to pay for defragmenter like diskeeper anymore.
*I thought Windows's built-in defrag = Diskeeper Lite Don't ever worry about defragging again. http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...uto_defrag.asp
There is a reason Microsoft made it automatic right out of the box. So people can stop worrying about it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
07 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Having multiple drives installed here as well as moving files back and forth between them at times the fragmentation level will still jump up a little from 0% where a quick run of the Auslogics program will take care of that.
Other that this however the Windows 7 defrag tool is generally keeping everything but the system reserved partition at 0% on all drives. That however was just found with a 9% level as seen in the attached image. The monthly scheduled defrag of course has taken care of the rest in the meantime. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
08 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
When I had XP-PRO-SP3 I used Diskeeper 10 Pro Premier and it worked great. Now I'm using Windows 7 defragger and set it to manual. It works great the best I can tell. How often one should use it is up to each person. I used it to defrag about a week ago and just checked and I'm still 0% defraged so I did not defraged. You can check as often as you like and then decide weather or not to defrag. Simple, precise, check-able, done. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
08 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The typical defrag seen here is first seen following any clean install of Windows such as for the new build now running and following the monthly review on the status of all drives to see what if any fragmentation is seen. For that you simply click the analyse button or view what the automatic scan displays for a level.
Generally since Vista with the SuperFetch once Windows detects any level of fragmentation it preloads the defrag tool in the background where you never even notice it running. If the level does climb due to some files being stubbornly fragmented then you would use a program like the free Auslogics mentioned earlier to see what can be done with that.
Note that last part is when you have a large number or large files being moved, copied, created, deleted, even downloaded, or following a series of programs being added or removed. All that tends to change the environment somewhat on any drive which in most cases Windows will compensate for. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
12 Jul 2010
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#8 | | XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro x64 |
Well, the native defragger lacks the ability to defrag system files, needs 15% or more disk space to defrag, is quite slow, lacks a drive map and does not have the fragmentation prevention algorithms. So, if these features are important to you, then you might find the third party utility more useful. | My System Specs | | OS XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro x64 CPU i2500 Motherboard Asus P8P67 Memory 8GB 1333 MHz Graphics Card GTX260 Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2407WFP-HC Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Silverstone Zeus 750W Case Gigabyte Full Tower Cooling Stock Hard Drives Several; total 4TB Internet Speed 10Mbps |
12 Jul 2010
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#9 | | |
Meanwhile,,, I bought O&O Defrag, so I'm bl**dy well using it !! | My System Specs | | |
16 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
All defrag programs need free space. No there is no pretty little colored boxes jumping around. It just defrags. I have never had it to be slow by much, may be a couple of minutes. Could be the built in defrag is a little more complete, I don't really know. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
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