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Windows 7: Windows 7 Defragmenter, just as good as Diskeeper?

06 Jul 2010   #1
Microhard

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
Windows 7 Defragmenter, just as good as Diskeeper?

I have been a Diskeeper user for 2 years and recently after I switched to windows 7 I was googling a lot for a defragger. I came across many sites saying that Windows 7's built-in defragger is just as good as diskeeper. Is that true? If it is then I don't have to pay for defragmenter like diskeeper anymore.

*I thought Windows's built-in defrag = Diskeeper Lite


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06 Jul 2010   #2
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

The built in defragger is fine for Windows 7, it was made for it. You can use the free defraggler, which is also very good.

Dont defrag too often. 3 or 4 times a year tops, unless you install and uninstall a lot.
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06 Jul 2010   #3
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The free program Auslogics will defrag a drive in minutes even when compared to the builtin defrag tool in 7. Auslogics Disk Defrag Review - Auslogics Disk Defrag Download - Softpedia

Diskkeeper was tried out back in the XP days but found rather obsolete for Vista with the SuperFetch keeping the drives maintained in low key and still low fragmentation seen with 7. The Auslogics program however simply works at a much faster pace then seen with anything else.
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06 Jul 2010   #4
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Microhard View Post
I have been a Diskeeper user for 2 years and recently after I switched to windows 7 I was googling a lot for a defragger. I came across many sites saying that Windows 7's built-in defragger is just as good as diskeeper. Is that true? If it is then I don't have to pay for defragmenter like diskeeper anymore.

*I thought Windows's built-in defrag = Diskeeper Lite
Don't ever worry about defragging again.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...uto_defrag.asp

There is a reason Microsoft made it automatic right out of the box. So people can stop worrying about it.
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07 Jul 2010   #5
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Having multiple drives installed here as well as moving files back and forth between them at times the fragmentation level will still jump up a little from 0% where a quick run of the Auslogics program will take care of that.

Other that this however the W7 defrag tool is generally keeping everything but the system reserved partition at 0% on all drives. That however was just found with a 9% level as seen in the attached image. The monthly scheduled defrag of course has taken care of the rest in the meantime.


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08 Jul 2010   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

When I had XP-PRO-SP3 I used Diskeeper 10 Pro Premier and it worked great. Now I'm using Windows 7 defragger and set it to manual. It works great the best I can tell. How often one should use it is up to each person. I used it to defrag about a week ago and just checked and I'm still 0% defraged so I did not defraged. You can check as often as you like and then decide weather or not to defrag. Simple, precise, check-able, done.
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08 Jul 2010   #7
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The typical defrag seen here is first seen following any clean install of Windows such as for the new build now running and following the monthly review on the status of all drives to see what if any fragmentation is seen. For that you simply click the analyse button or view what the automatic scan displays for a level.

Generally since Vista with the SuperFetch once Windows detects any level of fragmentation it preloads the defrag tool in the background where you never even notice it running. If the level does climb due to some files being stubbornly fragmented then you would use a program like the free Auslogics mentioned earlier to see what can be done with that.

Note that last part is when you have a large number or large files being moved, copied, created, deleted, even downloaded, or following a series of programs being added or removed. All that tends to change the environment somewhat on any drive which in most cases Windows will compensate for.
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12 Jul 2010   #8
techcal

XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Well, the native defragger lacks the ability to defrag system files, needs 15% or more disk space to defrag, is quite slow, lacks a drive map and does not have the fragmentation prevention algorithms. So, if these features are important to you, then you might find the third party utility more useful.
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12 Jul 2010   #9
Fathther Jack

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JonM33 View Post
Don't ever worry about defragging again.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...uto_defrag.asp

There is a reason Microsoft made it automatic right out of the box. So people can stop worrying about it.
Meanwhile,,, I bought O&O Defrag, so I'm bl**dy well using it !!
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16 Jul 2010   #10
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

All defrag programs need free space. No there is no pretty little colored boxes jumping around. It just defrags. I have never had it to be slow by much, may be a couple of minutes. Could be the built in defrag is a little more complete, I don't really know.
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