Need Surround Sound

rvcjew said:

What are you using to output the 4k? The humax you talked about only supports up to 1080p. What model are your satellites?

at the moment just TV speakers not that bad to be honest but nothing like my old (Sony str-dg910) system need to upgrade even it would work, satellites are Sony SS-v315, but not essential

rvcjew said:

web said:

rvcjew said:

What are you using to output the 4k? The humax you talked about only supports up to 1080p. What model are your satellites?

at the moment just TV speakers not that bad to be honest but nothing like my old (Sony str-dg910) system need to upgrade even it would work, satellites are Sony SS-v315, but not essential

No I meant the device sending the audio and video to your tv, also as Misfit stated you can hook up your old sony av again and try out the audio syncing settings to see if this fixes it for you. Depending on source(desktop vs laptop) I need to set my delay a bit. I only use 1080p 3D though.

sorry the audio video is built into TV as a HD Free view affair just listening through TV speakers at moment, old Sony is for sale, good unit for 1080p, but need to move on for 4K set up

am I asking the wrong question here isn't there a product out there that just does sound wired to speakers, but digital from source or has the world gone blue tooth mad ??

rvcjew said:

web said:

am I asking the wrong question here isn't there a product out there that just does sound wired to speakers, but digital from source or has the world gone blue tooth mad ??

the standard is to route through hdmi your source to a proper receiver (in your case with 4k passthrough) and then to the tv from there. That is all digital. if your tv is the source then you would just use its optical out or if it has a hdmi out even better. What model is your tv web?

TV is LG 42UB820V it has optical out think its got blue tooth too ..... but don't to mess with picture, the picture good now but picture from virgin box through 4K rubbish in comparison, ps picture in vivid mode on ps4 unreal man

rvcjew said:

What I would do in your situation if you still have the Sony is make the tv output sound to the optical out and run just it to your sony avamp. If your looking for an all around 4k solution you will need to ask others though since I only have experience even at 4k with budget avamps. My avamp is a onkyo tx-nr525 and it has decent 4k passthrough but very limited sound capability. If your tv plays the video fine you might be better off sending it to the tv then sound to the nosy if the you only have like two devices.

herd this term a few times not sure what it means i.e."4K Passthrough' does this mean it will let the video source just go thought not mess with it ? ... at all ? ... or are some passthrough's not as good as others and do mess with it ........ and what about the sound, or this about sound

rvcjew said:

web said:

rvcjew said:

What I would do in your situation if you still have the Sony is make the tv output sound to the optical out and run just it to your sony avamp. If your looking for an all around 4k solution you will need to ask others though since I only have experience even at 4k with budget avamps. My avamp is a onkyo tx-nr525 and it has decent 4k passthrough but very limited sound capability. If your tv plays the video fine you might be better off sending it to the tv then sound to the nosy if the you only have like two devices.

herd this term a few times not sure what it means i.e."4K Passthrough' does this mean it will let the video source just go thought not mess with it ? ... at all ? ... or are some passthrough's not as good as others and do mess with it ........ and what about the sound, or this about sound

I'm not sure what you mean by this sound also I meant sony and not nosy lol, the 4k passthough if a true passtrough will not touch the signal, that is correct. It will only take its sound signal from it to use for the receiver. The difference when talking 4k is that a receiver with 1.4 HDMI will passthrough 4k at 24/30 fps max and a HDMI 2.0 receiver can do it in that as well as 60fps (if the source can handle it).
Hope this helps answer at least some of your questions.

EDIT: CNET explains it well here. HDMI 2.0: What you need to know - CNET

let me try ask this again because I still don't quiet get it, so the term pass-through doesn't mean it will pass-through unchanged, but it will past through to best of the ability of the said AV which will most probable be HDMI 1.4 or lower fps than 4K, so 4K pass-through of a lesser AV or most things on the market at the moment that state 4K pass-through would reduce picture quality? yes