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Windows 7: Need Surround Sound

06 Jan 2015   #1
web

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 
Need Surround Sound

Hi all looking in vain for Surround Sound System, that isn't a dvd/Blu-ray player or a AV Amp System, just need it to work for sound 5.1 or higher with a sub out, optical in, is there such a thing ???
cheers web


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13 Jan 2015   #2
web

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by web View Post
Hi all looking in vain for Surround Sound System, that isn't a dvd/Blu-ray player or a AV Amp System, just need it to work for sound 5.1 or higher with a sub out, optical in, is there such a thing ???
cheers web
Ok this must be the wrong place to ask anyone think of anywhere to ask?, with out giving too big a plug to outside places ........ and as I've been looking need a surround system that will work with 4K TV most old av systems wont sync sound with picture on a 4k TV
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14 Jan 2015   #3
society misfit

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Hi Web. Not sure I quite understand your question? How do you plan on powering your speakers if you are not looking for an AV Receiver?


What is your budget? What is the rest of your components, ie; speakers, subwoofer etc. Older AV Receivers may not be able to process a 4K signal, but there are many newer ones out there that can.
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15 Jan 2015   #4
web

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post
Hi Web. Not sure I quite understand your question? How do you plan on powering your speakers if you are not looking for an AV Receiver?


What is your budget? What is the rest of your components, ie; speakers, subwoofer etc. Older AV Receivers may not be able to process a 4K signal, but there are many newer ones out there that can.
thanks for your response Misfit im not totally sure what im looking for, was using a (sony str-dg910) but wouldn't sync sound and picture on 4K so had to remove, im left with all speakers in place wires and all just need something to plug them all in, then I will send the sound signal from tv to the said something preferably by optical out, the said something would be powered by mains and have to work with 4K, didn't want AV because only need the sound not audio video
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15 Jan 2015   #5
society misfit

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

The ďAVĒ in AV Receiver is just a terminology used by the industry. The Video portion is a pass though while the receiver processes the surround sound modes. Some AV receivers can upconvert a lower resolution video source such as a VCR (remember those) or DVD to HD. Outside the Surround Sound processor and amplifier an AV Receiver is just a switching device to allow you to connect multiple sources.



Not knowing your TV so I canít say for certain but the majority will not process 5.1 surround sound through their Optical out. All the ones I have seen output only 2 channel stereo through their optical out. You will have to look at the specification of your TV to see if 5.1 surround sound is possible through its optical out (called Toslink). Never the less you still need an AV Receiver to process the surround sound modes and amplify your speakers. If you would like to let me know your budget and what speakers you are using (this is actually important) I can assist in choosing a few.
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16 Jan 2015   #6
web

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post
The ďAVĒ in AV Receiver is just a terminology used by the industry. The Video portion is a pass though while the receiver processes the surround sound modes. Some AV receivers can upconvert a lower resolution video source such as a VCR (remember those) or DVD to HD. Outside the Surround Sound processor and amplifier an AV Receiver is just a switching device to allow you to connect multiple sources.



Not knowing your TV so I canít say for certain but the majority will not process 5.1 surround sound through their Optical out. All the ones I have seen output only 2 channel stereo through their optical out. You will have to look at the specification of your TV to see if 5.1 surround sound is possible through its optical out (called Toslink). Never the less you still need an AV Receiver to process the surround sound modes and amplify your speakers. If you would like to let me know your budget and what speakers you are using (this is actually important) I can assist in choosing a few.
so are saying a AV Receiver wont mess with my 4K picture making it less ? than the 4K I can see now
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16 Jan 2015   #7
rvcjew

7 Pro x64, 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by web View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post
The ďAVĒ in AV Receiver is just a terminology used by the industry. The Video portion is a pass though while the receiver processes the surround sound modes. Some AV receivers can upconvert a lower resolution video source such as a VCR (remember those) or DVD to HD. Outside the Surround Sound processor and amplifier an AV Receiver is just a switching device to allow you to connect multiple sources.



Not knowing your TV so I canít say for certain but the majority will not process 5.1 surround sound through their Optical out. All the ones I have seen output only 2 channel stereo through their optical out. You will have to look at the specification of your TV to see if 5.1 surround sound is possible through its optical out (called Toslink). Never the less you still need an AV Receiver to process the surround sound modes and amplify your speakers. If you would like to let me know your budget and what speakers you are using (this is actually important) I can assist in choosing a few.
so are saying a AV Receiver wont mess with my 4K picture making it less ? than the 4K I can see now
Not if it is a true 4k pass-through setup no it will not.
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17 Jan 2015   #8
web

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rvcjew View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by web View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by society misfit View Post
The “AV” in AV Receiver is just a terminology used by the industry. The Video portion is a pass though while the receiver processes the surround sound modes. Some AV receivers can upconvert a lower resolution video source such as a VCR (remember those) or DVD to HD. Outside the Surround Sound processor and amplifier an AV Receiver is just a switching device to allow you to connect multiple sources.



Not knowing your TV so I can’t say for certain but the majority will not process 5.1 surround sound through their Optical out. All the ones I have seen output only 2 channel stereo through their optical out. You will have to look at the specification of your TV to see if 5.1 surround sound is possible through its optical out (called Toslink). Never the less you still need an AV Receiver to process the surround sound modes and amplify your speakers. If you would like to let me know your budget and what speakers you are using (this is actually important) I can assist in choosing a few.
so are saying a AV Receiver wont mess with my 4K picture making it less ? than the 4K I can see now
Not if it is a true 4k pass-through setup no it will not.
my speakers are just miss match of acquired over time basically two front tall Warfdales a Sony centre speaker and 4 satellites, but would be willing to fore go for proper sounding system, that will sync sound with picture cant even get my humax fox t12 to sync with 4k ?? .... price range would consider both ends of scale apart from stupid (don't have) money cheers ps plus a powered sub analogue connector
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17 Jan 2015   #9
rvcjew

7 Pro x64, 10 Pro x64
 
 

What are you using to output the 4k? The humax you talked about only supports up to 1080p. What model are your satellites?
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17 Jan 2015   #10
society misfit

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Should have mentioned this before but many AV Receivers have delay adjustment for the audio should they be out of sync with the picture Ė even your Sony DG910 has this. And, some TVís will also have this adjustment as well.



As for AV Receivers Ė many options to choose from but stay away from the cheap stuff, even from the big Japanese names. As the saying goes Ė you get what you pay for. Look for ones that are 4K compatible or are spec with HDMI 2.0.



Look up a few and if you have any questions post them on this thread. Good luck!
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