| Windows 7: Choosing A New Sound Card |
31 May 2010
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
Choosing A New Sound Card It appears that my sound card has croaked on my primary rig, and I'm looking for another. Recalling past discussions along these lines, it seems that there are three choices for me...the Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty, Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCIe or something in the Auzentech line. I say "something" simply because I haven't looked at them too closely yet. The reason for this is because I understand that they use a Creative chipset, which I assume would need a Creative driver, which is the primary reason that I'm considering anything other than Creative in the first place (I resent them deliberately attempting to obsolete older cards).
I still like the Creative card that I listed, because it does have a drive bay unit, but it appears so simplistic, that I'm not sure that it would be worthwhile to me.
Where my problem is, is that there are so many facets to consider while comparing these cards, that I get confused easily and I'm hoping that someone will be able to simplify the subject. What should I look for to decide? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
31 May 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Ellesmere Port, UK. |
Speaking from experience I can tell you the Asus Xonar dx is a fantastic card. Prior to owning the dx I bought a creative card and loathed the drivers for it so sold it straight away where I then purchased this dx.
Most of the reviews I've read claim it to be far better value for money than the d2x and in some instances actually has better sound quality. It also caters for all occasions ie game/movie/music and the gui imo is much better looking and easier to manipulate than creatives offerings.
Every one has differing views as I'm sure your aware but the dx really is a sweet card for the price.
My 2 cents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64. CPU i5 760 @ 4.2Ghz. 1.18v Motherboard Gigabyte - H55M-USB3 Memory 4g Corsair xms3 ddr3, 1600Mhz. Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX-560Ti soc edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Dx - Logitech Z5500. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" LCD Wide screen 1680-1050 -Samsung 42" Plasma.... Screen Resolution 1680/1050 -----1920/1080p. Keyboard Logitech G15-v2 Gaming. Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X8. PSU XigmaTek 80plus NRP-PC702 - 700w dual 30a. Case Venus Gamers Midi Tower Case with LED Display Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2... x2 Arctic F8 case fans........ Hard Drives 2x 2TB Seagate Go Flex,
1x 1TB Seagate,
1x 640WD Black,
x16 Gig sandisc flash drive,
1x8Gig sandisc flash drive. Internet Speed Virgin Media - 50mb down- 8mb up. Other Info x2 Xbox 360 wireless controllers...
Dual layer optical disc drive...
Chrome 79million
A.V = MSE |
31 May 2010
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#3 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
Your post is worth more than 2 cents, and I'm leaning toward the Asus card. The only thing that I don't like is that it doesn't have a front drive bay unit...and the fact that I have never owned anything except Creative previously. However, as I said above, the Creative bay is so simplistic, that I don't think that it is much of a factor. It has far less I/Os on it than my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum.
Both cards claimed a superior sound quality for online gaming, but the Asus also mentioned VoIP, which is more important to me than gaming.
Would either card be better with my old analog 5.1 speakers?
EDIT: I imagine that it is okay, but when looking at the specs, I found this: Quote: Operation System: Windows Vista/XP(32/64bit)/MCE2005 Since it doesn't mention Windows 7 x64, is there anything special that I need to know to make it work properly? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
31 May 2010
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#4 | | |
I do recommend staying away from Creative as their drivers and their support are awful. My last Soundblaster card is just sitting in my closet. I think they've been the market leader for so long that they just forgot about customer service. | My System Specs | | OS windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Core i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 8 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 Graphics Card Gigabyte HD 7950 Sound Card Creative X-FI Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster T240HD Screen Resolution 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU Corsair HX-1000 Case Coolermaster Storm Trooper Cooling Noctua NH -C14 Hard Drives Western DIgital Caviar Black 1 GB
Samsung 64GB SSD 830 Series
Corsair Force GT 240 GB Internet Speed Cable |
31 May 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |
I'd suggest using a soundcard based on a chipset that was new in January 2008 or later (after Vista's first anniversary).
Unfortunately, I know of no such card. Does anyone have any suggestions? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
31 May 2010
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn I'd suggest using a soundcard based on a chipset that was new in January 2008 or later (after Vista's first anniversary).
Unfortunately, I know of no such card. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have no idea of the DOB of the chipsets of any of the cards, but the Asus Xonar D2X claims that it is compatible with Vista, and it does have a specific driver for Windows 7. However, if there is a better card available, I'm all ears. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
31 May 2010
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#7 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I decided to switch to onboard sound, until I get a new card, but so far I'm not having any luck. I have never used the onboard sound before, so as far as I know, it doesn't work.
I enabled it in the BIOS and in the Device Manager. the DM says that it is working properly and the Volume Control Mixer does indicate that there is output, but nothing out of the speakers, except the BIOS beep at startup.
I have uninstalled everything from the Creative installation, so unless someone can cue me on something that I have missed, I guess that this rig is mute for the time being...any ideas? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
01 Jun 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Ellesmere Port, UK. |
The dx runs straight out of the box with win 7 x64, Asus always do a good job with drivers and this is no exception. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64. CPU i5 760 @ 4.2Ghz. 1.18v Motherboard Gigabyte - H55M-USB3 Memory 4g Corsair xms3 ddr3, 1600Mhz. Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX-560Ti soc edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Dx - Logitech Z5500. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" LCD Wide screen 1680-1050 -Samsung 42" Plasma.... Screen Resolution 1680/1050 -----1920/1080p. Keyboard Logitech G15-v2 Gaming. Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X8. PSU XigmaTek 80plus NRP-PC702 - 700w dual 30a. Case Venus Gamers Midi Tower Case with LED Display Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2... x2 Arctic F8 case fans........ Hard Drives 2x 2TB Seagate Go Flex,
1x 1TB Seagate,
1x 640WD Black,
x16 Gig sandisc flash drive,
1x8Gig sandisc flash drive. Internet Speed Virgin Media - 50mb down- 8mb up. Other Info x2 Xbox 360 wireless controllers...
Dual layer optical disc drive...
Chrome 79million
A.V = MSE |
01 Jun 2010
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#9 | | Win7 (7600) Home Prem 64 bit Cotswolds |
My D2X works fine with Windows 7 64bit. Had a few hiccups when I updated drivers but all working ok now.
Sound quality is pretty good but onboard GeneralMidi sounds aren't great, so if you plan to play midi files thru it, you might be disappointed.
There's no Soundfont support to improve GM set (even tho I'm sure I saw SF mentioned in the specs).
However, it does include a midi daughter card, with I/O on a backplate for interfacing with external kit.
Works fine with DAW progs like Reason etc.
EAX isn't licensed, and Asus solution is an 'interpretation' of EAX instructions. I heard there can be game compatability issues, although I havent experienced any problems myself.
Note:- D2X card requires a floppy drive power connector, so if you have a floppy drive, make sure you have a spare power plug.
Main deciding factor when choosing this card was superior sound quality and bang-per-buck.
Reason for not even considering Creative products:- first-hand experience of Creative's crippled drivers (Audigy2 ZS Notebook - yaay for Daniel K). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number PCSpecialist.co.uk (custom build) OS Win7 (7600) Home Prem 64 bit CPU Intel Core i5-750 Motherboard Asus P7H57D-EVO Memory 8gb Corsair DDR3 1300MHz CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia GTX275 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X / Creative Inspire T7700 speakers Monitor(s) Displays Sharp Aquos 42" HDTV (via hdmi) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard 600 Mouse Logitech LX6 wireless PSU Corsair TX850 Case Antec 900 Cooling Titan TTC-NK34TZ on CPU, 3x 120mm & 1x 200mm fans in case Hard Drives Samsung SATA 1.5TB HD1541UI Internet Speed 4Mb/s landline, 7.2Mb/s mobile broadband (both Orange) Other Info Don't be fooled by the 'Junior' thing. I just don't post a lot.
I've been building/configuring/fault-finding PC's since Win3.11 and DOS6.2.2
I learned machine code on an 8086 & BASIC on a Commodore Pet, so I've been there from Early Days!
There's not much about PC's I'm unfamiliar with. I'm just here to find solutions to the problems Win7 presents. Not because I'm dumb or clueless. |
01 Jun 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit |
The Asus Xonar will probably be my next purchase unless Creative buck their ideas up. Tired of the occasional crackles of sound.
The auzentech is simply a creative card made by someone else. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
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