| Windows 7: MSE vs Defender |
26 Jul 2010
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MSE vs Defender Currently on my W7x64pro laptop, I have Defender running, but it keeps freaking me out with wanting to restart the computer after every definition update. I *hate* that, and other similar programs (like Avast) can update without having to restart the whole machine. I *hate* that...
So I'm thinking, maybe MSE is more well-behaved and user-friendly in this respect. Any ideas?
And yes, I have updates set to download, but install when I tell it to. Still, it keeps nagging me that the stupid Defender cannot simply install its definition update without re-starting the whole machine. I shut the laptop down less often than once a week. | My System Specs |
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26 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
MSE is better than defender in all the terms. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN OS Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) CPU Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) Motherboard Samsung Electronics Memory 6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1) Graphics Card AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Hard Drives 1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD Internet Speed sucks Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome (Sync enabled) |
26 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
Windows Defender is included in MSE, so you can just disable it in Services and not worry about it anymore. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Avira Internet Security Browser IE 9 Other Info ATI HDMI Audio |
26 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by OppfinnarJocke Currently on my W7x64pro laptop, I have Defender running, but it keeps freaking me out with wanting to restart the computer after every definition update. I *hate* that, and other similar programs (like Avast) can update without having to restart the whole machine. I *hate* that...
So I'm thinking, maybe MSE is more well-behaved and user-friendly in this respect. Any ideas?
And yes, I have updates set to download, but install when I tell it to. Still, it keeps nagging me that the stupid Defender cannot simply install its definition update without re-starting the whole machine. I shut the laptop down less often than once a week. Well I dont know why you hate that, but MSE is better in that regard. It does update without restart.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
26 Jul 2010
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Thanks for all the replies. Will get rid of Defender, ASAP.
As for why I don't like it to prompt me to restart... well, I typically have 20 different apps going at the same time, copy/pasting between them, I hate to close down that and then set it all up again. I order them in the taskbar to my liking and for quick access, and so on. Restarting simply upsets my well-configured work-space, so I do that as seldom as often...
Thanks again. | My System Specs | | |
26 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee Windows Defender is included in MSE, so you can just disable it in Services and not worry about it anymore.  Minor correction, Windows Defender (anti-spyware program) is disabled when you install MSE. Windows Defender - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Information On September 29, 2009, Microsoft released Microsoft Security Essentials, a freeware anti-malware product. A Microsoft official notice posted earlier on June 23, 2009, on Microsoft community forum indicates that Microsoft Security Essentials supersedes Windows Defender as it covers a broader range of malware. The same notice states that although users do not need to run Windows Defender anymore, both applications can remain installed side-by-side. Current releases of Microsoft Security Essentials automatically turn off Windows Defender on installation | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
26 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
MSE is a security suite designed for consumers and lacks centralized management features which are found in Microsoft Forefront Client Security. It includes the same anti-malware engine (dubbed "Microsoft Malware Protection Engine", or MSMPENG for short[ not in citation given]), and virus definitions that all other Microsoft desktop anti-malware products share, including Forefront Client Security, Windows Live OneCare, and Windows Defender[ not in citation given] (Defender excludes the antivirus definitions which are separate from the antispyware definitions). [14] Before installation, MSE checks for the validity of the installed copy of Microsoft Windows. MSE requires no registration or personal information. [15] MSE will disable Windows Defender, as it provides protection against malware, not limited to spyware and adware Microsoft Security Essentials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Avira Internet Security Browser IE 9 Other Info ATI HDMI Audio |
26 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee MSE is a security suite designed for consumers and lacks centralized management features which are found in Microsoft Forefront Client Security. It includes the same anti-malware engine (dubbed "Microsoft Malware Protection Engine", or MSMPENG for short[ not in citation given]), and virus definitions that all other Microsoft desktop anti-malware products share, including Forefront Client Security, Windows Live OneCare, and Windows Defender[ not in citation given] (Defender excludes the antivirus definitions which are separate from the antispyware definitions). [14] Before installation, MSE checks for the validity of the installed copy of Microsoft Windows. MSE requires no registration or personal information. [15] MSE will disable Windows Defender, as it provides protection against malware, not limited to spyware and adware Microsoft Security Essentials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Thanks, Jacee. Where does that state that Windows Defender is included in MSE?
Also, note the "not in citation given" points to that? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
28 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
MSE replaces Defender, so you can't really compare the two. Defender also was never really considered an anti-virus program, as it was meant to focus on spyware instead. Just switch to MSE and be done with it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
03 Aug 2010
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#10 | | |
Thanks for all the replies.
Just to check that I understand this correctly...
MSSE replaces Defender, that's understood, but I also no longer need avast, correct? | My System Specs | | MSE vs Defender problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:16 AM. | |