| Windows 7: How to SET Administrator Password??? |
31 Jul 2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
You're talking about a 'secure password' for the Administrator's account that no one else can breach, right? | My System Specs |
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31 Jul 2010
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
As the net user command has to be run as an administrator, to work on an admin level account, there is control on the net command . As long as the system is correctly locked down this should not cause a security issue.
The actual command is set to run without user input to allow batch action - For example It may be required to set the local admin password on a domain of thousands of systems. This is where batch scripts have to be used as not all accounts have Group policy/Security Policy templates.
To be honest it's just as likely to be used to disable or delete the accounts than to set passwords, but scripts are an essential part of a sysadmin's tool-kit | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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01 Aug 2010
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#13 | | Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 Tejas, northern Mexico |
well, that makes more sense to me than anything I had thought of, but it sure is a hole in the walls of the system!! think how easy that is to break.
I don't recall XP being quite that forgiving.
I have not yet tried this, but if I go crank up from a cold start and select "Safe Mode - Command Prompt", I bet I will have zero challenge in running the script to activated Admin and change that password to whatever I [or someone nefarious] wants?? 
Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 As the net user command has to be run as an administrator, to work on an admin level account, there is control on the net command . As long as the system is correctly locked down this should not cause a security issue.
The actual command is set to run without user input to allow batch action - For example It may be required to set the local admin password on a domain of thousands of systems. This is where batch scripts have to be used as not all accounts have Group policy/Security Policy templates.
To be honest it's just as likely to be used to disable or delete the accounts than to set passwords, but scripts are an essential part of a sysadmin's tool-kit | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10 OS Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 CPU Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom, Motherboard Dunno Memory 4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB Graphics Card Geforce 8400 GS and others Sound Card RealteK ALC260 and others Monitor(s) Displays Asus HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Cooling We Be Cool Hard Drives WD Caviar 640gb SATA |
01 Aug 2010
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
As far as I can recall the Net command and it's subset has not changed much if at all since it's inception in the windows product line - NT3.5 I believe. XP had access to the same commands
As for the safe mode workaround that was present in XP, this loophole was closed with Vista - even if you select safe mode with command prompt you are still required to provide login credentials. If you do not have administrator credentials available you will not be able to to run the Net command to work with administrator level accounts.
There are ways to circumvent the current windows security, of course, but even these can be made more difficult by hardware and bios controls such as preventing the boot from external devices.
As for the hidden administrator account it is good practice to enable this add a secure password (30+ character strong password), and then disable it again. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
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01 Aug 2010
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#15 | | Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 Tejas, northern Mexico |
and hard drive? we have sorta crept into a broader topic, but even boot password is not going to protect if hd is lifted. I recently cracked a HD that had its own password, and I was a tad disappointed. Are passwords on HD's peculiar to just some mftrs? the one I reference was a toshiba laptop drive, branded by toshiba.. .not sure the origin of the firmware.
It fell to Paragon B&R | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10 OS Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 CPU Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom, Motherboard Dunno Memory 4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB Graphics Card Geforce 8400 GS and others Sound Card RealteK ALC260 and others Monitor(s) Displays Asus HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Cooling We Be Cool Hard Drives WD Caviar 640gb SATA |
03 Aug 2010
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
The problem of data security is one that depends on the value of the data concerned. In areas where data is hyper-critical it is not unusual for the drive to be lifted at the end of the working day - and stored in a secure fireproof location. Physical security taking over where software leaves off.
In the good old days this was a case of a floppy or Zip drive which was the o9nly place mission critical data was stored and even the temp files were deep erased at the end of each day.
There are also various military strength encryption systems for current drives which are, although not un-breakable, beyond the tools available to the normal user.
The lock systems provided by drive manufacturers are more to dissuade the casual thief than the professional data miner, the problem with OEM security is that it tends to be friarly simple and also made available to too many people by default. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
03 Aug 2010
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#17 | | Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 Tejas, northern Mexico |
That's a good point, but I'm wondering if the massive move to virtualized devices is a response to the failure of other measures? All server farms that I know of today are virtualized by one means or another. if a "server" is compromised, it merely dissipates to the bit-bucket. no material harm done. No forensic trail at least on the premises.
But if I follow you, ultimately this is the best for now: make a removable device bootable and storable, run everything that matters on that device, encrypt the device on a platform other than the one the work was done-on, and remove from the physical premises. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10 OS Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3 CPU Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom, Motherboard Dunno Memory 4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB Graphics Card Geforce 8400 GS and others Sound Card RealteK ALC260 and others Monitor(s) Displays Asus HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Cooling We Be Cool Hard Drives WD Caviar 640gb SATA |
20 Dec 2010
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There is an quality article here. I think it must be read: Create Administrator Account and Password on Windows 7 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer OS win 7 ultimate CPU intel Motherboard fıxconn Memory 2ddr2 Graphics Card intel gma Sound Card default Monitor(s) Displays dont know PSU dontknow Case dontknow Cooling dontknow Hard Drives 250gb How to SET Administrator Password??? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:34 AM. | |