McAfee Update (8/9/10) causes win 7 Problems

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  1. Posts : 369
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
       #41

    You would think that after not getting them to reconnect that they would look to the security software and not the computers. That would be my open line to say, time for a new security investment. The only part that corporations probably hate is researching what works and what doesn't.
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  2. Posts : 2,963
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
       #42

    The problem is that the only way to update McAfee is online, but the Cisco software won't let a computer without an active, up-to-date AV connect to the network. Since McAfee needs to be updated, the computers aren't allowed to connect, but McAfee can't be updated without being connected to the internet. They pretty much hung themselves, so its not all McAfee's fault. I'm already biased against McAfee, so I prefer to place part of the blame on their software which failed to update for no apparent reason. I've had a couple long conversations with the IT people at school about it and they can't figure out what the problem was that prevented the updates from installing, and the schools president won't give them permission to remove the restrictions on network use. It's all pretty ridiculous.
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  3. Posts : 8,375
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       #43

    The restrictions are inplace by school policy for obvious reasons there. The decision to replace Mc something A fail free or fee would be a decision the administration would need to be convinced of would be necessary. That would also mean temporarily allowing exceptions likely through the firewalls they have inplace.

    The IT people need to show how MCsickof Afoobar is a total waste of time and have a strong case. Other then that will be something in limbo where they will continue to have a reason to keep employing tech people to work on continual problems rather then a working one time solution.

    It's all in the "necessary expenses" they can figure into the school's budget which includes paying for the newer version of same rather then smart shopping for what would work. It's the typical hand in hand burocracy type thinking applied there. "Any decision must go through the board and that's final!"

    The ISP the school uses would obviously be endorsing it being what they provide. "We'll use what the ISP recommends!"
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  4. Posts : 369
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
       #44

    This ought to be a good school year for me. My school district recently switched to Verizon and they are using McAfee, which is provided by Verizon. All I have to say is, they will have problems, and if I ever bring home a virus or other malicious file on my USB drive because they have software that doesn't work, I WILL be complaining! I try and keep all the computers on my network free of malware, so you can see where this would be a big issue.
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  5. Posts : 7,781
    Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
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       #45

    codyw said:
    I've always wondered something...since McAfee's home products don't work, I wonder if their corporate products work?
    Well, the school ran McAfee corporate software, they had a virus that wouldn't go away, and for about 3 months, every time I got home & plugged in my FD, MSE detected a virus/worm.

    When I would scan the drive with McAfee, it showed "all clean".

    There's your answer....as far as I'm concerned, nothing from McAfee works

    Yeah codyw, school starts for me on the 23rd....whee. After the 22nd, I have no life for 4 months...hopefully they have changed their AV from McAfee although I doubt it
    Last edited by Borg 386; 12 Aug 2010 at 08:33.
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  6. Posts : 8,375
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       #46

    Need more be said? I haven't run across very many that haven't drawn the exact same conclusions. With 99% of users having nothing but complaints you would have thought after all these years they would have gotten their act together. Obviously not!
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  7. Posts : 369
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
       #47

    I am always seeing advertisements on website for McAfee products. And I just have to shake me head, I agree with you Night Hawk, they should be getting their act together. Now that I know how bad McAfee's corporate products are, I think that's what my school is going with. Since I also have Macintosh systems on my home network, they also have Norton on them. Since there aren't a whole lot of viruses out for Mac, I'll just scan my USB drive on my Mac before I plug it into my PC that way I'm left with no headaches. Norton for Mac seems to have a good detection and real-time engine (Auto-Protect).
    I've seen people plug an infected USB drive into their PC and literally infect it to the point of just screaming!
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  8. Posts : 7,781
    Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
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       #48

    Yepperz codyw, that's exactly what happened at our school. People plugged in their FD's, took it home & got their PC's messed up. Most notably our writing class, where the teacher would try to access something and it took 3 - 5 minutes to load. I took a look at his PC, overrode the lockouts for the task manager and saw his PC was using 97% net usage and 95% cpu usage. Even when nothing was running. Except for the 5 or 6 programs listed that were obviously worms/viruses.

    When I pointed this out to him, he told me "The school has an AV program". I said "Yeah...I guess you can call it that if you wanted to".

    WTG McAfee Corporate

    I posted an announcement on the Black Board Site for everyone to d/l MSE into their PC's and run it every time they got back from school (although for the most part, as soon as you plugged in your FD MSE instantly detected it and quarantined/deleted it).

    Some people told me that their PC's were messed up the same way as the class PC was (High net/processor usage).

    I wonder what new viruses await us as we start the new year...
    Last edited by Borg 386; 13 Aug 2010 at 09:07.
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  9. Posts : 369
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
       #49

    I hate to think. There's always a new virus emerging every day. Some of them are nasty enough to send your computer to the repair center or worse. I'm pretty good when it comes to removing viruses and stuff but it's a pain!
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  10. Posts : 8,375
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       #50

    VIPRE will also bring up an immediate prompt for scanning flash drives or any external hard drive when plugged in and auto detected by Windows. Any better written program will see this protection prompting.

    The problem seen at a school however means proving a strong case to the board of directors or whoever runs it that a better program is needed. Simply coming from any student however wouldn't be enough to convince them that any change was needed however. You simply have to take your own precautions from the beginning.
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