| Windows 7: Eset NOD 32v4 or Microsoft Security Essentials |
24 Jun 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
I tried ESET recently, and while it seemed just fine and is well reviewed, it's not free. I like free. I pay enough for things, why should I pay for ESET when I can use MSE for free and it seems to be doing a fine job? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Memory 8GB RAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4600 Monitor(s) Displays HP w2007 Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 700 GB |
25 Jun 2009
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by ciphernemo ESET NOD32, hands down, no contest.
I use only NOD32 and have it's Vista 64-bit version working great on Windows RC-1. It detected and removed viruses just fine when I was scanning a co-worker's drive via USB to remove viruses for them (I do PC work on the side apart from my full time job as a software engineer).
You don't need the suite from ESET, just the basic NOD32 package, a browser less prone to attacks like Firefox or Opera, and some good browser add-ons for whitelisting sites to allow JavaScript.
The "detection in the wild" and scanning throughput of NOD32 beats all others, no exceptions. It also has the smallest footprint of any of the big name Anti-virus packages out there. excellent post! i agree 100%. i would not even consider another product, especially one by m$, to protect my system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number tw33k OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 CPU Intel 3770k 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS Maximus V Formula Memory 8GB (2x 4GB) Crucial Ballistix Graphics Card Sapphire 7950 (1060/1600) Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI) Screen Resolution 2048 x 1152 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair AX750 Gold Case Corsair Obsidian 800DW Cooling Corsair H100 (2x AP-121/2x UK-3000 push/pull) Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB
2TB WD Black
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External
2TB WD USB 3.0 Internet Speed 5mb/s Other Info Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2 |
25 Jun 2009
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#13 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Adelaide, Australia |
I think that there is currently no definitive answer to the question. MSE is, at least partially, an unknown quantity. It is already getting good reviews from authoritative sources - such as:AV-Test GmbH tested Microsoft Security Essentials, the free software Microsoft launched yesterday in beta, on Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7, putting it up against nearly 3,200 common viruses, bot Trojans and worms, said Andreas Marx, one of the firm's two managers. The malware was culled from the most recent WildList, a list of threats actually actively attacking computers.
"All files were properly detected and treated by the product," said Marx in an e-mail. "That's good, as several other [antivirus] scanners are still not able to detect and kill all of these critters yet."
AV-Test also measured Security Essentials against a set of in-house false positives to see whether the software mistakenly fingers legitimate files, a nightmare for users, who can be left with a crippled computer, and a disaster to the reputation of a security company.
"None of the clean files were flagged as being malicious," noted Marx. "Very good." (quoted from Computerworld)
Also in its favour is that it runs flawlessly in 7 (and I'd say has a good simple GUI too)
Eset is well established and gets reasonable results from authoritative sources. Not the very best but pretty good. An example is the above reported AV-Test GmbH. This chart should give everyone with their favorites hours of fun - 34 AVs Compared.
Eset has IMO an excellent GUI and runs "quietly".
So both are good solid alternatives.
I know many will scream blue murder but I run them both! Neither complains about the other, neither or even both use much in the way of resources. Still I can't be sure this is a good idea.
What I have learnt re AV and Windows 7 is this: - Not all AV solutions work in 7
- Some AV solutions work flawlessly (Eset, MSE, Avast and, I think Avira)(there are probably others)
- Most AV solutions are pretty good at what they do and none are perfect.
- A few AV solutions are below par and there are better options.
- We should all worry LESS about this "problem"
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number AMD Athlon 64 3200+, Lenovo G560 i3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Motherboard Gigabyte K8T8000 Memory DDR 2Gb (!) Graphics Card 6600GT Monitor(s) Displays MultiMonitor (2) LCD Mouse Logitech MX620 Cordless Hard Drives Old Seagate 75
Big Western Digital
Samsung 500Gb pulled out of an external drive and installed
Ext: Maxtor (Firewire), 1Gb Lacie (Samsung) |
25 Jun 2009
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#14 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
There is no comparison between Eset and MSE. If you want to go for free AV, MSE is excellent. If you wont mind paying for better security, NOD32 is solid protection. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN OS Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) CPU Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) Motherboard Samsung Electronics Memory 6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1) Graphics Card AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Hard Drives 1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD Internet Speed sucks Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome (Sync enabled) |
25 Jun 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM State College, PA |
Charles, thanks for the informative post.  Some good thoughts and resources there. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Charles Kane (picture of idle resources) As for the idle resources, Microsoft products will always have less because they have access to closed-source Microsoft libraries and other executables already present in Windows, while third parties use their own code and sometimes anything where Microsoft releases an API for it.
The same is true with IE. Since a good portion of IE is built into Windows, IE takes up less memory than programs like Firefox and Opera.
So that resources comparison of a Microsoft and non-Microsoft product isn't a fair fight.  To make things even less fair, Microsoft may be using .NET for most of their applications now, and they can tweak the .NET to include only what's needed for each application (since they have access to its closed- source when no one else does). Other third parties that use .NET have to include the whole library, which takes 20MB at least for .NET 2.0+. Instead, compare non-Microsoft to non-Microsoft for resource usage.
But there are other factors too. Memory leaks and memory usage fluctuation when doing scans, updates, etc. play a big role. But I'd still say any Microsoft application will use less memory. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM CPU Intel Core i7 920 (D0), overclocked @ 3.6GHz (4.2GHz stable) Motherboard EVGA X58 A1 Memory 6GB of OCZ DDR3-1600 triple channel @ 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Sound Card Auzentech X Meridian 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays (3x) Samsung 943BX, (1x) Samsung 2333HD, (1x) BenQ FP202W Screen Resolution 3840x1024 + 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G19 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU PC Power & Cooling Super-quiet Silencer 910 Case (modified) Tagan Black Pearl full tower, WCR edition Cooling Scythe Mugen2 CPU cooler, (5x) Scythe SFF21F, Zalaman cntrl. Hard Drives (4x) OCZ Vertex 30GB SATA2 SSDs on RAID 0 for 120GB total
(2x) Western Digital Black 1TB SATA2 on RAID 0
(1x) Lite-on DVD Burner and Blu-Ray player Internet Speed Comcast Cable, 22Mbps down and 5Mbps up Other Info Logitech Z-5500 Digital speaker system |
25 Jun 2009
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM State College, PA |
The biggest problem right now is that Microsoft has its Morro out in Beta, and I wouldn't use a Beta version of anything if you want solid virus protection.
Later this year when Morro is out of beta, it might be a very good choice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM CPU Intel Core i7 920 (D0), overclocked @ 3.6GHz (4.2GHz stable) Motherboard EVGA X58 A1 Memory 6GB of OCZ DDR3-1600 triple channel @ 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Sound Card Auzentech X Meridian 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays (3x) Samsung 943BX, (1x) Samsung 2333HD, (1x) BenQ FP202W Screen Resolution 3840x1024 + 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G19 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU PC Power & Cooling Super-quiet Silencer 910 Case (modified) Tagan Black Pearl full tower, WCR edition Cooling Scythe Mugen2 CPU cooler, (5x) Scythe SFF21F, Zalaman cntrl. Hard Drives (4x) OCZ Vertex 30GB SATA2 SSDs on RAID 0 for 120GB total
(2x) Western Digital Black 1TB SATA2 on RAID 0
(1x) Lite-on DVD Burner and Blu-Ray player Internet Speed Comcast Cable, 22Mbps down and 5Mbps up Other Info Logitech Z-5500 Digital speaker system |
26 Jun 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, 7600.20647 RTM Maputo, Mozambique |
Charles, about your screenshot: If you really wanna compare memory usage, don't compare with "egui.exe" but with "ekrn.exe", then you'll see that ekrn.use quite a lot of memory, which is the only thing I don't like about Eset Smart Security but have come to terms with.... I still prefer it as an AV solution, I really like to know what goes in and out of my PC by using the "Interactive Filtering" feature on the firewall option, they're even some microsoft services and files that I don't even allow to connect to the internet... I'm not saying that Eset is the only AV that does this, but there are a few that don't, so if any installed program wants to connect to the internet or "self-update" or any remote PC wants to connect to mine than they're simply allowed, just like that, c'mon... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number It's a Custom Build..... OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, 7600.20647 RTM CPU Intel Core2Quad Q9505 @ 4.0Ghz Motherboard Intel Skyburg DP45SG Memory 6GB Transcend DDR3-1333 Dual Channel Graphics Card ASUS GTX285 1GB GDDR3 Sound Card OnBoard Intel IDT HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h 22" WideScreen LCD, VGA & HDMI Screen Resolution 1680x1050, 60Hz Keyboard White aigo keyboard with blue LED on the keys.... Mouse Genius Mini Tracer PSU Omega 600W ATX2.0 Dual Rail, 2x Fans Case Cooler Master HAF 922 Cooling Corsair Hydro H50 in Push-Pull mode, 4 Case Fans with LED Hard Drives 1TB WD Caviar Black, Green Power...
1TB Dell, 32Mb/s, Internal SATA
320GB Seagate Internal SATA (3 Partitions) Internet Speed I'm ashamed to say... Other Info Aigo wireless keyboard(black) and a 2.1 Speaker System(white) |
26 Jun 2009
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#18 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 build 7601.21701 Ljubljana |
I did trade nod for mse and all in one mse seems solid enough, like IE is good enough. I am trying to use most of MS programs tho, for compatibility reasons... i mean is MS programs cant work together, then what will!? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 build 7601.21701 CPU Intel Q9450 @3608mhz (8x451) Motherboard Asus Rampage Formula Memory 6GB - 2x Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5D and 2x CM2X2048-8500C5D Graphics Card Zotac nVidia GTX295 Sound Card SoundMAX ADI1988B (X-FI MB) Monitor(s) Displays LG L227WTP & Samsung LE26R71B LCD TV Screen Resolution 1680x1050 & 1360x768 Keyboard Logitech G15 v2 Mouse Razer DeathAdder PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Case Thermaltake Cooling Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme and couple of fans Hard Drives 2x Seagate ST3500630NS in RAID0 Internet Speed FTTH 50/50 (dualstack IPv4 & native IPv6) |
26 Jun 2009
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM State College, PA |

Quote: Originally Posted by SoLoR ...like IE is good enough. I am trying to use most of MS programs tho, for compatibility reasons... i mean is MS programs cant work together, then what will!? Oh my goodness. You didn't just say "IE is good enough", did you? LOL!
Oh the poor masses out there who've never experienced the flexibility and awesomeness that is Firefox. *shakes head* Quirks mode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And from Wikipedia about IE security: Quote: Internet Explorer has been subjected to many security vulnerabilities and concerns: Much of the spyware, adware, and computer viruses across the Internet are made possible by exploitable bugs and flaws in the security architecture of Internet Explorer, sometimes requiring nothing more than viewing of a malicious web page in order to install themselves. This is known as a " drive-by install". There are also attempts to trick the user into installing malicious software by misrepresenting the software's true purpose in the description section of an ActiveX security alert.
A number of security flaws affecting IE originated not in the browser itself, but ActiveX-based add-ons used by it. Because the add-ons have the same privilege as IE, the flaws can be as critical as browser flaws. This has led to the ActiveX-based architecture being criticized for being fault-prone. More recently, other experts have maintained that the dangers of ActiveX have been overstated and there are safeguards in place. Other browsers that use NPAPI as their extensibility mechanism are suffering the same problems. In an April 2005 eWeek opinions column, Larry Seltzer stated: While there has been a striking lack of actual evidence that ActiveX is unsafe, there has been no shortage of baseless assertions and cheap shots against it. My favorite was the "Internet Exploder" incident in which Sun actually paid someone to write a malicious ActiveX control. The test system brought up all the warning dialogs about the program that you usually get and the Sun employee actually had the nerve to keep whacking on the enter key quickly so they would close as quickly as possible and didn't mention that there were any such warnings. Meanwhile, they also didn't mention that a signed Java applet could also perform dangerous privileged operations and would provide similar warnings. Most ActiveX criticism is simply uninformed, but this example was hypocritical and dishonest.[47] While Internet Explorer in 2008 had a comparable number of security vulnerabilities to Safari and Opera, and significantly fewer than its primary competitor, Mozilla Firefox[ citation needed], its comparative ubiquity has resulted in many more affected computers when vulnerabilities are found. According to research done by security research firm Secunia, Microsoft has not responded as quickly as competitors in fixing security holes and making patches available. [48] The firm also reported 366 vulnerabilities in ActiveX controls, an increase from the prior year. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit RTM CPU Intel Core i7 920 (D0), overclocked @ 3.6GHz (4.2GHz stable) Motherboard EVGA X58 A1 Memory 6GB of OCZ DDR3-1600 triple channel @ 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 Co-Op Sound Card Auzentech X Meridian 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays (3x) Samsung 943BX, (1x) Samsung 2333HD, (1x) BenQ FP202W Screen Resolution 3840x1024 + 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G19 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU PC Power & Cooling Super-quiet Silencer 910 Case (modified) Tagan Black Pearl full tower, WCR edition Cooling Scythe Mugen2 CPU cooler, (5x) Scythe SFF21F, Zalaman cntrl. Hard Drives (4x) OCZ Vertex 30GB SATA2 SSDs on RAID 0 for 120GB total
(2x) Western Digital Black 1TB SATA2 on RAID 0
(1x) Lite-on DVD Burner and Blu-Ray player Internet Speed Comcast Cable, 22Mbps down and 5Mbps up Other Info Logitech Z-5500 Digital speaker system |
28 Jun 2009
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#20 | | |
we should have eset group here in the forum ;D
Eset FTW!
though MSE is still a young software yet its doing really good... but I won't switch just yet... lets see how it will do in the long run ;D eset has been here since the 90's :P
thought if it will be proven that MSE will have better Detection rates than kapersky (which has the best detection rate) I'll switch to it LOL!.
from what I see MSE is decent and already beats free products | My System Specs | | Eset NOD 32v4 or Microsoft Security Essentials problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 AM. | |