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Windows 7: I need a decent firewall suggestion

13 Mar 2011   #31

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I would use either Outpost or Comodo those are the two best imho to choose from. @ Maxwire can I choose to put the virtual drive on like my D: drive instead of my C: Drive for Sandboxie? The reason being I like to keep most programs that write alot to my ssd on another drive a mechanical drive by using Link Shell Extension Method. Ive done that with firefox and moved it off the ssd onto my d drive and also moved the appdata files from roaming as well so when I close the browser it's not erasing cookies and crap off of my ssd. I want to do the same with sandboxie...

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13 Mar 2011   #32

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Please keep in mind that a lot of these programs are not phoning home as a means of tracking your usage.

as shown above, they are simply doing a check for the latest version of the software. You can easily go into settings and tell it not to check.

Not everything is a threat.
I tend to agree with this. Applications like Paint.Net run checks to see if new versions are available. It's simply convenient and easier on the forums for software like paint.net when consumers tend to be running the latest versions of the software. And even if programs did track usage, I don't really consider my usage of software as an invasion of privacy..for example, perhaps they were compiling statistics in a manner to evaluate a UI change or new functionality.

There is nothing wrong with those who are paranoid, but the overwhelming majority of us probably don't have a reason to be.

As far as a firewall, the built-in Windows firewall has done me fine. I've tested with the Comodo firewall recently and while it works well, it's also a PITA sometimes to get configured for things like Remote Desktop. I posted something on how to get RDP setup properly the other day in Comodo on these forums and I never really did get an answer other than suggestions to post on the Comodo forums as it was a difficult area. In my opinion, this should not be troublesome at all, it's a very common protocol and should be very simply. Let me create an access rule like I would on a router that says, "this range of IP's, are allowed to access port 3389 on this host". If you have a single box and need to really lock it down, then Comodo might be a great fit. I on the other hand have a home network and lots of hosts and other virtual machines and run quite a few server based type of things and I need a fair amount of access...especially from other hosts on my LAN. My hardware firewall keeps the folks on the WAN away. (unless I of course create a simple port forward rule to allow port 3389 (or whatever) into box x.x.x.x.
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13 Mar 2011   #33

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by I be he View Post
I agree, not all apps are spying when they phone home Or are they?
No they are not.

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I agree an A/V's #1 goal is malware preventionHowever most are easily defeated, and its not just a matter of my or your surfing habits.
A/V's do not nesscarily target all malware, they are not generally Malware/Spyware scanners. That is what Malwarebytes, Spybot and Ad-Aware are for.

They try to do what the others do better, but that is not the primary purpose.
Viruses are, not Malware/Spyware.

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Its part of the new reality of life on the internet, and its getting worse not better Some folks cant or wont see the distant early warning untill its too late Maybe.
I really do not know where people get this from.
I have on occasions been infected. When that is?

I was hitting sites I should not have been.

I have not been infected in a very long time, since the wife opened a stupid email.
And since I convinced her to stop using Facebook and My Space.

Surfing habits have a whole lot to do with it.
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13 Mar 2011   #34

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
I'm sorry if you do not agree, but I was infected 3 times in less than a year while using Norton 2009 and I have since sworn off using any black list Antivirus program which bases its effectiveness on frequent definitions updates since then.
And if these are the experiences you have gone through, I can totally understand your position. I haven't been infected a total of 3 times in the past 5-7 years.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
If you are having to use all that just to stay clean for any length of time, you need to change your surfing habits.
I have sandboxie installed on my machine. But I only fire it up on occasion. For example, a few months ago I had to jailbreak an iPad for an executive at work. Since I normally don't troll hacking and jailbreak sites, I elected to use sandboxie while I screwed around on those types of sites.

Generally speaking though, I have an AV loaded (MSE on my computer, Avast on wife's computer, and Trend on work computers), and I do an occasional MalwareBytes scan (which always come back clean). I use Firefox with AdBlock installed. And I even hit the occasional adult web site (however I have a few that I go to, I don't usually search for them and click on them), but I don't use any pirated software, I don't use P2P apps, I don't download warez, I don't get pirated movies, I don't play cracked games...and I just don't have problems with keeping my machines infection free with very little effort.
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13 Mar 2011   #35

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
I'm sorry if you do not agree, but I was infected 3 times in less than a year while using Norton 2009 and I have since sworn off using any black list Antivirus program which bases its effectiveness on frequent definitions updates since then.
And if these are the experiences you have gone through, I can totally understand your position. I haven't been infected a total of 3 times in the past 5-7 years.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
If you are having to use all that just to stay clean for any length of time, you need to change your surfing habits.
I have sandboxie installed on my machine. But I only fire it up on occasion. For example, a few months ago I had to jailbreak an iPad for an executive at work. Since I normally don't troll hacking and jailbreak sites, I elected to use sandboxie while I screwed around on those types of sites.

Generally speaking though, I have an AV loaded (MSE on my computer, Avast on wife's computer, and Trend on work computers), and I do an occasional MalwareBytes scan (which always come back clean). I use Firefox with AdBlock installed. And I even hit the occasional adult web site (however I have a few that I go to, I don't usually search for them and click on them), but I don't use any pirated software, I don't use P2P apps, I don't download warez, I don't get pirated movies, I don't play cracked games...and I just don't have problems with keeping my machines infection free with very little effort.
+1 for that!
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13 Mar 2011   #36

Win 7 64 premium
 
 

While i will say you are correct, you still can avoid alot of problems by avoiding places that scream "infection here" More and more of the nicer parts of town are becomming that place also. My ultimate point is so far the apps i listed earlier will do a way better job of protecting the peeps then an A/V + common sense.
I do understand your points though.
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20 Mar 2011   #37

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I got rid of Sandboxie long time ago. Too inconvenient. I rather do frequent images - just in case.
I have taken the time to learn how to use Sandboxie and I feel it has been worth it because I haven't had a single Malware detection on either of my computers since I started using it.

As far as frequent Windows partition imaging goes Macruim Reflect has saved my computer from more dangerous situations than I care to count! As an example after I found that Windows 7 SP1 had a critical bug I didn't even think about uninstalling it, but rather turned to the Macruim Reflect Image that I made just before installing SP1 and within 10 minutes the computer was back to running good ol' Win 7 RTM once again proving that Image restoration is the ultimate cure!

~Maxx~

I hope this doesn't make me sound stupid, but are images and system restore like the same thing? Like why do you make images, why don't you just use system restore? Are there benefits of making images?
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20 Mar 2011   #38

Win 7 64 premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Noxiide View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I got rid of Sandboxie long time ago. Too inconvenient. I rather do frequent images - just in case.
I have taken the time to learn how to use Sandboxie and I feel it has been worth it because I haven't had a single Malware detection on either of my computers since I started using it.

As far as frequent Windows partition imaging goes Macruim Reflect has saved my computer from more dangerous situations than I care to count! As an example after I found that Windows 7 SP1 had a critical bug I didn't even think about uninstalling it, but rather turned to the Macruim Reflect Image that I made just before installing SP1 and within 10 minutes the computer was back to running good ol' Win 7 RTM once again proving that Image restoration is the ultimate cure!

~Maxx~

I hope this doesn't make me sound stupid, but are images and system restore like the same thing? Like why do you make images, why don't you just use system restore? Are there benefits of making images?
Sandboxie will save your a$$. It wont help if you are allready infected, this is where imaging & restore points come in.
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20 Mar 2011   #39

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Noxiide View Post
I hope this doesn't make me sound stupid, but are images and system restore like the same thing? Like why do you make images, why don't you just use system restore? Are there benefits of making images?
There are different kinds of Disk images. Although I do keep set of 25 GB each Windows 7 System Images over the years I have come to rely more on keeping 8-9 GB each Macruim Reflect Images that I can store very economically on a remote inert drive and restore very quickly with 100% accuracy unlike System Restore which does not restore everything on the Drive to its current state.

On my Vista laptop System Restore does not work at all so for backup I have been relying completely on Macrium Reflect Windows Partition Images for almost 2 years which are quick to apply and do a complete job of Image Restoration.

~Maxx~

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20 Mar 2011   #40

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by I be he View Post
Sandboxie will save your a$$. It wont help if you are allready infected, this is where imaging & restore points come in.
Exactly! Running browsers in Sandboxie and keeping up to date squeaky clean Disc images provides excellent prevention and cure!

~Maxx~

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