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Windows 7: Is UAC worth using this time on 7?

21 Jul 2009   #11

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)

According to me, UAC is a defense of layer against our mistakes.

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13 Dec 2009   #12

Windows7 Home Premium
No network connection for standard UAC

Just installed 7 Home Premium, everything works fine from the administrator’s logon but there is no network connection for the standard account user that I set up.

Can't make any changes or get into Control Panel from that account for obvious reason. I don't want to give administrative privileges to this account. Anyone have any suggestions?
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13 Dec 2009   #13

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
OTOH, I was *ecstatic* that Vista was *finally* telling me that things were running in the background that I didn't necessarily want running.

You have to realize that with Windows XP anything could run in the background and if you were not aware of it, C'est la vie - you ran the risk of being hosed by a backdoor / Trojan / downloader every time you connected to the internet.

With Vista, if it needed to write to the restricted areas of the file system or registry, you were warned. if you were annoyed by it, then chances are you really weren't sure what was going on in the first place. Not all users who consider themselves technically proficient are actually that - technically proficient. They may *think* so, but being so is a completely different matter.

You may know your computer inside and out (like I do mine) but how well do you know your OS? Do you know the names of all files and are able to spot malicious looking files in a nanosecond? b/c if you don't spot them that fast, with the power of today's machines, they have already executed.

Furthermore, the same sort of thing was prevalent in IE back in the day - with ActiveX all versions of IE had the ability to ask the user before automatically installing - it was on the user to make sure that it asked every time. However, since the onus fell upon the user, the user became annoyed with the prompts and more often than not would check the box that said "Do not ask (meaning warn) me anymore" - and then wondered how something got installed on their machine without them knowing it.

The onus has always been on the user - but the user has rarely been willing to take the fall. In the end, M$ tried to make the user more safe - and the user rebelled, turning off UAC left and right, with software developers even advocating such.

IDGAF HOW proficient you think you are - turning off UAC is plainly idiotic. With the proliferation of 0-day attacks, combined with the proliferation of botnets and zombified machines, even *considering* turning off UAC is ludicrous. And I am not an ordinary, geek-loving proficient-using person - I have been using computers for well over 20 years and have been active in the forums for beta testing OSs, programs, and security programs. I test all sorts of new things, and until it folder I was contributing to 0-day spam and scam warnings and attacks at Castle Cops (once I learned how to get the syslog entries from my router to a daemon for parsing).

Wanna know what i have on my W7 64bit box? Malwarebytes Antimalware; M$ Security Essentials; UAC; WinPatrol.

Wanna know what I had in XP? Symantec AV Corporate Edition 6, then 8 (from work), Spybot S&D, Spywareblaster, ERUNT, WinPatrol, Ad-Aware, Hosts list, Clam AV on USB, and a lot more products (at least 4) that I cannot remember.

If you're annoyed by UAC - then you have too many things running that 'need' (or so they say) administrative privileges. I have *many* things needing administrative privileges - eVGA's Precision utility is one of them - but I deal with clicking the OK button so I can be that much more assured that my computer is running like it should - and that things that I don't want running are not.

UAC is not a substitute in and of itself - but it goes a long way to protecting the user from himself - until that user disables that very protection.

In spite of my diatribe, though, I will say this - it's *yours* to use. just be sure you *really* know what you are doing if you want to disable it.
This post is so very true. That's what the world does with their computers, then they're like 'I didn't install anything.' Well you don't want to be notified, you risk your computer.

It's the same way when you want to jump off a cliff, your parents are saying no and objecting to stop thinking about so. Then you just ignore them, and go and jump off the cliff. Your in the hospital by the time you know it.
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13 Dec 2009   #14

Windows 7

I once went to a web site supposedly hosting a video. And up came a UAC prompt. Then I wondered why would a web site cause a UAC prompt - it must want to install something. I left UAC turned on since then.
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13 Dec 2009   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FTG View Post
I once went to a web site supposedly hosting a video. And up came a UAC prompt. Then I wondered why would a web site cause a UAC prompt - it must want to install something. I left UAC turned on since then.
Yes, these are the exact same reasons that I suggest leaving UAC alone. It has nothing to do with limiting what I am allowed to do...or telling me when I did something that needed admin access...but rather when something or some program decides it wants admin control to do something. Gives me some heads up that something shady "might" be occurring.
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13 Dec 2009   #16

Windows 7 Pro & Vista Home Premium

It;s one of the first thing I disable in a new install.
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