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Windows 7: MSE effectiveness ?

21 Jul 2011   #1
t-4-2

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1
 
 
MSE effectiveness ?

I am beginning to wonder MSE effectiveness.
Is it not supposed to catch malwares, viruses and other malicious softwares ?

I just ran malwarebytes ( I did that almost weekly ), and it caught 7 infections.
Would anyone please tell me what those are ? Do they have anything to do with You-tube toolbar or related ?

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21 Jul 2011   #2
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

This is exactly the reason why I tell everyone with mse to get mbam and scan at least once a week with it manually.
Commonsense and a adblocker or noscript style browser plugin will usually keep you from even needing to scan.
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21 Jul 2011   #3
Bill2

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
 
 

PUPs (potentially unwanted programs) are applications that, in keeping with security and privacy concerns, user may want to be informed of and mostly will want to remove. They are not really malware.They can be installed by legit apps.

Your pup is relaed to the dealio toolbar/adware, read here.

PUP.Dealio - Malwarebytes Forum

As far as MSE not detecting it is concerned, a regular AV like MSE functions differently from MBAM. MBAM actually looks for things overlooked by regualr AVs so it should always be used as a supplement ro a regular AV, not as a substitute.
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21 Jul 2011   #4
t-4-2

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
This is exactly the reason why I tell everyone with mse to get mbam and scan at least once a week with it manually.
Commonsense and a adblocker or noscript style browser plugin will usually keep you from even needing to scan.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bill2 View Post
PUPs (potentially unwanted programs) are applications that, in keeping with security and privacy concerns, user may want to be informed of and mostly will want to remove. They are not really malware.They can be installed by legit apps.

Your pup is relaed to the dealio toolbar/adware, read here.

PUP.Dealio - Malwarebytes Forum

As far as MSE not detecting it is concerned, a regular AV like MSE functions differently from MBAM. MBAM actually looks for things overlooked by regualr AVs so it should always be used as a supplement ro a regular AV, not as a substitute.
Thank you both.
Can't give rep points because I need to give it to 14-15 other people first.
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21 Jul 2011   #5
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Excellent Bill - good reply.
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21 Jul 2011   #6
roban

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

MSE will not detect the latest strains of fake Alert viruses and neither will Malwarebytes. You will need to run Combofix. The only AV I have found that secures a computer against these strains is Norton.
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21 Jul 2011   #7
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roban View Post
MSE will not detect the latest strains of fake Alert viruses and neither will Malwarebytes. You will need to run Combofix.
That depends entirely on your definition of "latest". I could argue that ComboFix will not detect the latest malware, if my defintion of latest was a hour ago. It depends entirely on how often the AV engines and defintions are updated.

ComboFix is not for the faint-hearted and uninitiated. Here is the standard description and warning that accompanies any download of ComboFix:

Quote:
ComboFix is a program, created by sUBs, that scans your computer for known malware, and when found, attempts to clean these infections automatically. In addition to being able to remove a large amount of the most common and current malware, ComboFix also displays a report that can be used by trained helpers to remove malware that is not automatically removed by the program.

You should not run ComboFix unless you are specifically asked to by a helper. Also, due to the power of this tool it is strongly advised that you do not attempt to act upon any of the information displayed by ComboFix without supervision from someone who has been properly trained. If you do so, it may lead to problems with the normal functionality of your computer.

It is also understood that the use of ComboFix is done at your own risk.
For this reason, ComboFix is not generally recommended for a standard AV installation.

Regards,
Golden
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21 Jul 2011   #8
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

2nd Quarter 2011 AV tests: AV-TEST.org Tests of Anti-Virus- and Security-Software MSE has work to do.
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21 Jul 2011   #9
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DBone View Post
2nd Quarter 2011 AV tests: AV-TEST.org Tests of Anti-Virus- and Security-Software MSE has work to do.
This might be true, however if you don't put yourself in risky situations, it's possible that the protection afforded for free is sufficient enough. I mean, I use MSE simply because I never get anything and I don't have problems. I cannot justify spending money on something else. And if MSE catches 100% of the very well known malware, and 98% of stuff in the past 2 months..that's most likely going to catch anything that I'm "more likely" to find.
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21 Jul 2011   #10
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Risky situations can surprise even the most experienced user. A good website this second, could be hijacked the next. Drive-by infections are everyone's vulnerability regardless of experience. Yea, searching porn and cracks will get you there faster, I agree. There are several better free products then MSE, with avast! Free being one of them. That being said, virtualization is the best weapon when browsing the internet, and really should be a users first line of defense. If a user is relying on any AV as their first and last line of defense, then they will be the next forum member to start a new thread titled, "I'm infected, now what".
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