Pros and Cos (Norton vs Kaspersky ) ?

Maguscreed · Aug 10, 2011

Yeah you might have trouble just getting everyone to agree it's even functional...

preiius · Aug 11, 2011

Most my experience on the subject basically shows me that people that get viruses will continue to manage to do so regardless of the amount of protection you give them as they will get impatient and just start clicking whatever they need to in order to keep going without even reading message prompts.

+1

I'm sure Norton & Kas have great products. But for avg users, MSE w/ built-in firewall is good enough. More importantly, use a standard user account. Create hd image is never a bad thing, they will always find a way to mess it up.

KremmenUK · Aug 11, 2011

Choice of AV is much like your car and car colour choice, it's quite personal and most people will defend their choice.

I've been using NIS since about 2001 and I've never had any problems so I stick with it.

baxxter · Aug 11, 2011

I decided to use NIS 2011 ,thanks all

Ticker305 · Nov 18, 2011

Kaspersky 2012 30 day free trial for the win!!! A week into it and man this is the best security software I've ever used. Uninstalled MSE, it just doesn't compare

Ticker305 · Nov 18, 2011

With Security Software, sometimes you really do get what you pay for

Maguscreed · Nov 18, 2011

MSE was never meant to be super robust, it's just a easily accessible free solution for people who are looking for that.
The firewall alone in a full dedicated suite is going to be far more complex than the entirety of MSE.
This is by design though, not through some lack of understanding.

ICIT2LOL · Nov 21, 2011

Hum KIS through and through myself - said int the past for a few cents a day what the problem.

Having said that I must say I do like the Comodo Premium free - very akin to KIS in some ways.

pincushion · Nov 22, 2011

baxxter said:
I decided to use NIS 2011 ,thanks all

I can understand why some people seem to have a hatred of Norton - perhaps they were bitten as babies - but it can be tamed and is quite effective at keeping malware off your system if you aren't too reckless and disable everything. I have used it for quite a time and haven't had any problems. Have used 360 which is probably the dumbed down version but am going back to NIS 2011. I don't use the Identity Protection, Backup or the PC Tuneup apart from the Startup manager, preferring other means of doing these. I tweak the Settings to disable much in there as some I think can be quite intrusive and usually set it to Silent Mode all day once it has updated and do a Quickscan either at same time or later. Seems to behave well enough for me but it has to be controlled properly.

Maguscreed · Nov 22, 2011

pincushion said:
baxxter said:

I decided to use NIS 2011 ,thanks all

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I can understand why some people seem to have a hatred of Norton - perhaps they were bitten as babies - but it can be tamed and is quite effective at keeping malware off your system if you aren't too reckless and disable everything. I have used it for quite a time and haven't had any problems. Have used 360 which is probably the dumbed down version but am going back to NIS 2011. I don't use the Identity Protection, Backup or the PC Tuneup apart from the Startup manager, preferring other means of doing these. I tweak the Settings to disable much in there as some I think can be quite intrusive and usually set it to Silent Mode all day once it has updated and do a Quickscan either at same time or later. Seems to behave well enough for me but it has to be controlled properly.

I suppose it's all valid points you make, but what you have to consider, is that in my case at least it doesn't have anything to do with a failure in protection from either of the two. It has to do with the massive amount of machines I've worked on over the years that are suffering debilitating bsod's because of one or the other of these two software suites (the free av's aren't exempt from this either)
The reason I openly suggest MSE is not because I think it offers the best protection, that would be ridiculous given the available data on the subject. I suggest it because it's about 90% less likely to result in problems given my own personal experience.

...and while granted I'm sure these two av's work fine for many people ( I don't suspect they would still be in business were this not the case) I've seen way too many nightmare scenarios involving them over the years to just recommend either of them openly to 'average' level users.

ICIT2LOL · Nov 22, 2011

baxxter said:
I decided to use NIS 2011 ,thanks all

Well good luck baxxter as you know I am KIS to the core but each to his own and in any case none of them pick up everything - it's an impossibility. Plus my experience with NIS was in the distant past perhaps they have got their game together now.

I recently played with an NIS 2012 OEM bundle on a friends machine and hey the GUI and configing was ok I just swayed by the different reviews it has had particularly the matousec one.

Hey and don't forget to back it up with the free MBAM mate (two AV rule).

Oh and I always set this as per piccie as my KIS doesn't like it set (ticked).

pincushion · Nov 23, 2011

Maguscreed said:
pincushion said:

baxxter said:

I decided to use NIS 2011 ,thanks all

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I can understand why some people seem to have a hatred of Norton - perhaps they were bitten as babies - but it can be tamed and is quite effective at keeping malware off your system if you aren't too reckless and disable everything. I have used it for quite a time and haven't had any problems. Have used 360 which is probably the dumbed down version but am going back to NIS 2011. I don't use the Identity Protection, Backup or the PC Tuneup apart from the Startup manager, preferring other means of doing these. I tweak the Settings to disable much in there as some I think can be quite intrusive and usually set it to Silent Mode all day once it has updated and do a Quickscan either at same time or later. Seems to behave well enough for me but it has to be controlled properly.

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I suppose it's all valid points you make, but what you have to consider, is that in my case at least it doesn't have anything to do with a failure in protection from either of the two. It has to do with the massive amount of machines I've worked on over the years that are suffering debilitating bsod's because of one or the other of these two software suites (the free av's aren't exempt from this either)
The reason I openly suggest MSE is not because I think it offers the best protection, that would be ridiculous given the available data on the subject. I suggest it because it's about 90% less likely to result in problems given my own personal experience.

...and while granted I'm sure these two av's work fine for many people ( I don't suspect they would still be in business were this not the case) I've seen way too many nightmare scenarios involving them over the years to just recommend either of them openly to 'average' level users.

Hi

I know I am not your typical user and am sufficiently knowledgable to adjust all my software to do what I want but I have never had BSODs on this system or on my XP system that was due to Norton. In fact I rarely if ever had them. I think Norton is bloated and does try to cater for the lowest skilled users but properly configured it does an effective job and is not too intrusive. Like all anti-malware software over the years it has its good and bad eras but overall it has maintained its reputation for an effective integrated solution to avoid malware. I do suspect that other things often cause the problems that are put down to Norton though. Mainly my system doesn't suffer from such problems so perhaps that is where I have had so good an experience. It is the only anti-malware I use for online protection.

I would never say that it is the best since I have not used many of the other good anti-malware software that is available whether free or paid but it has worked for me even if it is annoying having to customise it so much to make it less intrusive.

killjoy · Dec 9, 2011

Doesn't almost everyone get a free antivirus with their service provider? I'll bet if you go to whoever you get your internet from's website that you'll see a link to an antivirus solution they offer. It's in their best interests to keep zombie servers off their network. QWest used to offer OneCare - don't know about now. Comcast offers Norton 360 v5.

By the way, since I've installed Norton, I know it must be my imagination, but my computer seems to be faster, which makes no sense, but things are snappier. And the way it handles memory is fantastic. It uses almost no memory (2600 K), which is as good as Panda's netbook version. It also uses the cloud like Panda, and the detection rates are always better than KIS. KIS updates are a pain whereas I've never seen Norton do anything, everything is done in the background, including system optimization. But when I look at the log, there it is... It's defragged, cleaned the registry, reported system errors all while I stepped away from my computer to grab a beer or give my girlfriend some attention. In this day and age of advanced computing, there's no reason you should ever have to "maintain" a computer manually.

Maguscreed · Dec 9, 2011

killjoy said:
By the way, since I've installed Norton, I know it must be my imagination, but my computer seems to be faster, which makes no sense, but things are snappier. And the way it handles memory is fantastic. It uses almost no memory (2600 K), which is as good as Panda's netbook version. It also uses the cloud like Panda, and the detection rates are always better than KIS. KIS updates are a pain whereas I've never seen Norton do anything, everything is done in the background, including system optimization. But when I look at the log, there it is... It's defragged, cleaned the registry, reported system errors all while I stepped away from my computer to grab a beer or give my girlfriend some attention. In this day and age of advanced computing, there's no reason you should ever have to "maintain" a computer manually.

Has it aligned the planets and brought such peace that communication with all forms of life is now possible, while simultaneously transporting you to a desert island of super models on which you are the only male?

killjoy · Dec 9, 2011

LOL

No

Maguscreed · Dec 9, 2011

oh... okay then.

Phone Man · Dec 9, 2011

Maguscreed said:
killjoy said:

By the way, since I've installed Norton, I know it must be my imagination, but my computer seems to be faster, which makes no sense, but things are snappier. And the way it handles memory is fantastic. It uses almost no memory (2600 K), which is as good as Panda's netbook version. It also uses the cloud like Panda, and the detection rates are always better than KIS. KIS updates are a pain whereas I've never seen Norton do anything, everything is done in the background, including system optimization. But when I look at the log, there it is... It's defragged, cleaned the registry, reported system errors all while I stepped away from my computer to grab a beer or give my girlfriend some attention. In this day and age of advanced computing, there's no reason you should ever have to "maintain" a computer manually.

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Has it aligned the planets and brought such peace that communication with all forms of life is now possible, while simultaneously transporting you to a desert island of super models on which you are the only male?

That feature is turned off by default and I have not been able to find way to activate it. The salesmen at Best Buy told me it was included.

Jim :banghead:

Maguscreed · Dec 9, 2011

oh, I was just ensuring it hadn't become all powerful.
Still keeping an eye open for skynet ...

ICIT2LOL · Dec 10, 2011

Maguscreed said:
oh, I was just ensuring it hadn't become all powerful.
Still keeping an eye open for skynet ...

Probably making a Terminator for Snorton :roflmao:

killjoy · Dec 10, 2011

I just looked at my Norton log this morning and somehow it managed to do a complete scan yesterday in-between my work sessions. I'm looking at my memory usage all the time because I do computer simulations of manufacturing lines, and I need that memory and quick response. It never interfered with me. Sorry fellas, but I'm a fan of Norton, at least for now. In short, it stays completely out of sight and does its job plus what I was using Advanced System Care for which DID interfere with me constantly.

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