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Windows 7: Need HDDErase That will work with SATA ...

01 Dec 2011   #1
zapp22

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 
Need HDDErase That will work with SATA ...

I have previously used Ultimate Boot CD with HDDErase to securely eliminate data from a SATA drive - that was on a Compaq minitower . no issues really other than having to hunt the utility after UBCD loaded some linux derivative.

but now i'm mystified. I have a HP DC7600 with a 250gb barracuda that was my daily driver win7 ultimate with all my very sensitive data etc and I"m getting it ready to sell.
the hdd and the dvd drive are on SATA headers/controller.
when I run ubcd [the same cd i used before] it does not attempt to load whatever linux that was, instead I have a text screen with a few choices for loading something - one of the free DOS's? anyway when I finally get to the HDDErase [also called Secure Erase] util, it barfs because nothing has identified the SATA hdd. If instead I browse the menu for some other utilities to use, several of them work just fine, finding the 250gb drive and the dvd like child's play.

anyone know of maybe a more robust bootable image that does have the HDDErase util?

i've tried setting/resetting the various options in bios to no avail. those options are pretty limited on this system.


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01 Dec 2011   #2
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Try the clean all command prompt in this tutorial:.
SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
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01 Dec 2011   #3
zapp22

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

i'm on my way now. moved the drive to another system i have and booted the ubcd - this time the utility could get to the hard drive - different bios implementation. its now running. thanks
If you're unfamiliar with HDDErase [secure erase] and Enhanced version, its an interesting story. the 'feature' has been in most ata type drives from major mftrs, but went neglected by the system makers

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/C...eProtocols.pdf
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02 Dec 2011   #4
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

Glad to hear you solved the issue, albeit in a complicated way.

The easiest solution (for future reference) would have been to simply set the SATA controller to IDE mode in your BIOS, then boot the UBCD.
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02 Dec 2011   #5
zapp22

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

did so. didn't work.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon View Post
Glad to hear you solved the issue, albeit in a complicated way.

The easiest solution (for future reference) would have been to simply set the SATA controller to IDE mode in your BIOS, then boot the UBCD.
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02 Dec 2011   #6
flemur13013

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

If you've got linux running you can zero-fill a partition (or disk) with this:

Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
(replace /dev/sda with correct value; /dev/zero is fixed).

One problem might be that a linux boot CD might not have a "/dev/zero"

You can also use /dev/random rather than /dev/zero, but it's a lot slower.
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02 Dec 2011   #7
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

Ow. I see. That's surprising - I can only guess HDDErase uses some kind of unusual low-level access - I'm not sure, really.
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02 Dec 2011   #8
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

For future reference, and other posters that might want to wipe their hard drives, all you need is clean and cleanall commands as theog mentioned. This is the definitive guide:

Secure Erase / Wipe : Definition and Methods

Regards,
Golden
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02 Dec 2011   #9
Devux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I stick with DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke). http://www.dban.org/download It is a bootable CD that will overwrite the HDD with random data, if I remember correctly it uses a Mersenne twister algorithm to fill the hard drive, you can set the number of passes you want performed. Short of a sledge hammer, this is about as good as it gets. (In my own opinion anyway)
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03 Dec 2011   #10
zapp22

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
For future reference, and other posters that might want to wipe their hard drives, all you need is clean and cleanall commands as theog mentioned. This is the definitive guide:

Secure Erase / Wipe : Definition and Methods

Regards,
Golden
it is not clear to me that the Clean All command executes the hard drive's internal Secure Erase process. If so, which one, and why is it not specifically cited? Nowhere is the exact type of regimen referred to, no specification is cited, and the exact methodology is not described. I personally would not trust it for sensitive drives/data. A lot of people use the term "secure erase" in a generic fashion and are not referring to that which is described in detail in the article I linked.
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