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Windows 7 - Is MSE as good as the free Avast or Avira? |
12-16-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Is MSE as good as the free Avast or Avira? Recent postings here from some users seem to indicate that the current version of MSE is quite good. I was thinking of using either Avast or Avira, but if MSE really is as good at detection and removal then I thought I'd give it a try first. Anyone try all three recently? The reports I've found online still seem to show MSE as not quite as good.
Nevermind. I did more searching and found more info. I'm going to try MSE, SpywareBlaster, and MAMB (which I already use).
Last edited by tony22; 12-16-2011 at 07:11 PM..
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12-16-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by tony22 Recent postings here from some users seem to indicate that the current version of MSE is quite good. I was thinking of using either Avast or Avira, but if MSE really is as good at detection and removal then I thought I'd give it a try first. Anyone try all three recently? The reports I've found online still seem to show MSE as not quite as good.
Nevermind. I did more searching and found more info. I'm going to try MSE, SpywareBlaster, and MAMB (which I already use). Good move. Strictly from a BSOD perspective MSE causes much less than Avira, or Avast. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS WCP ONLY CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
12-17-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
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12-17-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Ah. I had seen the first link but not the second. Thanks A Guy.
Leaves me wondering, though. For as highly as MSE is recommended here, it seems like the majority of info out there places it behind the other two. Do Avast and Avira lead to so many stability issues or other problems that they outweigh their capabilities? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
12-17-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
If you go to the link below you will see some tests with some differing results. Even through both test are done by the same people, the two test use two different methodologies and ratind systems. In the October 2011 test, MSE did better than both Avira and Avast. In the December test, Avira and MSE did well (with Avira being the better of the two) and Avast did poorly. It is also a matter of personal preference. In over two years of using MSE I have only had one virus successfully infect my computer, but keeping regular back-ups of my computer allowed to fix the problem in under an hour. Also, when it comes to real world scenarios, the results are generally going to be different from what happens in a controlled envorinment. AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software - Removal-Tests | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Vostro 1700 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz T7250 Memory 4GB DDR2 667 Graphics Card Intel GM965 Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.2" and Insignia 22" Screen Resolution 1440x900 and 1360x768 Hard Drives 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Other Info Current warranty does not expire until 4/14/2012 |
12-17-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Good info Petey7. This comparison seems to be based on Removal capabilities, where even in the other reviews posted by A Guy MSE does well. It appears to be the detection phase where MSE is not as strong. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
12-17-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
I've always had MSE detect something when it first tries to install itself. Even in the one case the a virus did make it's way on to my computer, MSE popped up with a message saying severe threat detected, but then the virus apparently ended the processes for MSE. MSE is known for the fact that its heuristic based detection being weaker than many other AVs, but this is by design to help insure that no false positives occur. The main thing to remember is that no AV is perfect, and no AV will protect your computer completely. This is why we also recommend having an on-demand scanner, such as MBAM, doing backups, and having system restore turned on. That way if something does get past your main AV, you have a backup plan ready.
EDIT: Just wanted to add, if you prefer Avast or Avira, both are fine AVs. Use which ever you like, and recommend which ever you like to others. Its mostly a matter of what you think works best for you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Vostro 1700 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz T7250 Memory 4GB DDR2 667 Graphics Card Intel GM965 Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.2" and Insignia 22" Screen Resolution 1440x900 and 1360x768 Hard Drives 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Other Info Current warranty does not expire until 4/14/2012 |
12-17-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit |
Asking for an opinion on a AV is going to get you a lot of different answers, as everyone has their own preferences & beliefs on which on works best. In the end you will have to make the choice on what you think is better & what you're comfortable using.
MSE does work well in the fact that since it was written by MS, it integrates smoothly with Windows. That's not to say it's 100% protection, nothing is. Make sure to keep your AV defs updated.
To this date, the best AV out there is....common sense and cautious surfing habits.
It also helps to run Malwarebytes and other on demand scanners (Such as MSERT) on a regular basis.
And of course, a Firewall is a must have item nowadays. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Hell oh Well OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz Memory Not much with my ADHD Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 Monitor(s) Displays I have one...It's bright. A 19 inch CRT actually. Keyboard It's 10 years old and amazingly still works Mouse Same deal with the mouse, 10 yrs old, if it ain't broke... Case Don't get on my case...man :D Cooling I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi Hard Drives 250 GB Main Drive, 2 - 1 TB Externals, various FD's. |
12-17-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 To this date, the best AV out there is....common sense and cautious surfing habits. That's actually been my mode of operation for many many years. Using online info to keep track of the latest threats, a bit of caution, and common sense I've only been hit maybe 4 times in the last 10 years. Between backups, restore points, and MAMB the recoveries have been painless. I used Norton and some other products before that but didn't like the way they slowed things down. With lots of RAM and faster processors I decided to revisit adding something more proactive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
12-17-2011
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#10 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |

Quote: Originally Posted by tony22
Nevermind. I did more searching and found more info. I'm going to try MSE, SpywareBlaster, and MAMB (which I already use). Nice choices.
Well done!
FYI...
Further Security.
*Firewall. {The inbuilt Windows Firewall is considered appropriate}
*Router / firewall Router security
* It is important to update programs & scan regularly.
* Exercise caution with what you click on.
Avoid engaging in activities such as file sharing, warez cracks, adult content, online gambling or other high-risk behaviors. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] Is MSE as good as the free Avast or Avira? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:09 AM. |  |