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Windows 7: Question about MSE

27 Feb 2012   #1
GianniDPC

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
Question about MSE

Hello, Everyone at SF

My questions is does MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) need Windows Update to be able to update automatic ?

Because I prefer to set Windows Update 'To tell me first about updates before downloading and installing'


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27 Feb 2012   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

MSE seems to be strange. Most definition updates seem to come automatically, but then there are also MSE updates that come via the normal update routine. And those are also marked as definition updates. I never figured out the difference.

Btw: I think MSE is not as great as some people say. I caught 2 nasties when it was on my system. Had to set back to a prior image. I went back to NIS 2012. But my wife still uses it without any problems. But she works everything thru the AOL browser.
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27 Feb 2012   #3
GianniDPC

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
MSE seems to be strange. Most definition updates seem to come automatically, but then there are also MSE updates that come via the normal update routine. And those are also marked as definition updates. I never figured out the difference.
Well I'll see how it goes I registry edited MSE to check for updates Every Hour ....

(Standard is 24h)
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27 Feb 2012   #4
codekiddy

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601
 
 

AFAIK, If you turn off windows update then MSE will not update it self (only you can update it manulay then)
if windows update is set to "check for updates but let me choose wether to download or install them....." then you'll see when new updates becomes available while checking for updates manualy or when WIN Update checks.

you also need to turn off MSE update during each quick scaning under MSE >> settings >> scaduled scan and uncheck check for lates virus & spyware before runing scaduled scan checkbox.
see here:
Question about MSE-mse5.png


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27 Feb 2012   #5
GianniDPC

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by codekiddy View Post
AFAIK, If you turn off windows update then MSE will not update it self (only you can update it manulay then)
if windows update is set to "check for updates but let me choose....." then you'll see when new updates becomes available while checking for updates manualy or when WIN Update checks.

you also need to turn off MSE update during each quick scaning under MSE >> settings >> scaduled scan and uncheck check for lates virus & spyware... checkbox.
Yes but I want it to be auto updated but only MSE, Not Windows based Updates (I want to install these myself)

MSE is a light nice AV but if it needs Windows Update to update that's a bit stupid ....
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27 Feb 2012   #6
codekiddy

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GianniDPC View Post

Yes but I want it to be auto updated but only MSE, Not Windows based Updates (I want to install these myself)

MSE is a light nice AV but if it needs Windows Update to update that's a bit stupid ....
I think you can achieve this in only one way:
1 .set windows updates to manualy checking
2. set MSE so that quick scan runs once per day(each day).
3. make sure MSE update before scan is enabled so that MSE updates it self each day

cheers
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27 Feb 2012   #7
GianniDPC

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by codekiddy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GianniDPC View Post

Yes but I want it to be auto updated but only MSE, Not Windows based Updates (I want to install these myself)

MSE is a light nice AV but if it needs Windows Update to update that's a bit stupid ....
I think you can achieve this in only one way:
1 .set windows updates to manualy checking
2. set MSE so that quick scan runs once per day(each day).
3. make sure MSE update before scan is enabled so that MSE updates it self each day

cheers
Lol but if it scans than it eats cpu again >.<
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27 Feb 2012   #8
codekiddy

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601
 
 

Quote:
Lol but if it scans than it eats cpu again >.<
I'm not pretty sure but I think you're out of options

EDIT:
MSE have an option to colntrol the amount of processor used during scaning.
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27 Feb 2012   #9
GianniDPC

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by codekiddy View Post
Quote:
Lol but if it scans than it eats cpu again >.<
I'm not pretty sure but I think you're out of options
Lol, Well i'll see updates come at the second tuesday every month so ...

Maybe i'll set it to auto again
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27 Feb 2012   #10
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I have my Windows set the same way you do, but I'm not seeing a problem with MSE. When my PC says I have updates, I allow them to install, including MSE. No need for me to make any changes to MSE at all. I don't see what the big deal is, unless you are postponing your updates for weeks at a time, instead of just installing them when available.
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