| Windows 7: Bit of a dilemma with MSE |
02 Mar 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (Build 7600) Wales |
Bit of a dilemma with MSE I have a customer of mine who is an aged farmer who lives out in the sticks.
The problem I'm having is that he lives in an area that has no broadband and no mobile internet access.
He recently purchased a new PC from me as he has to log his livestocks passports for travel purposes to and from the market. This has now moved to an on-line process hence the reason for him purchasing a PC.
So he has no choice but to use dial-up (which also disables his use of the only phone line he has) 
The thing is windows updates are causing his internet connection to time out as the files are so large and this also causes his mail to seize up.
He uses MSE for security, and MS office for a simple excel spread sheet that needs to be updated and emailed. And he has to log on once a day to the internet to check a few things on his livestock sales etc.
Is there any way to disable windows updates for office and windows but allow MSE to update automatically or does he have to update MSE manually each day ? (remember the poor bugger struggles to turn the PC on and for the first month I was there daily to fill in the 10 or so lines into the spread sheet and mail them, but he seems to have got the hang of it now)
I don't mind bringing his PC to my office to do monthly windows/office updates, but I would prefer for his anti-virus to be daily updated automatically as 3 other Farmers in the same area have been infected recently via email so I just wanted to keep the costs down of me going out to him so often and keep him happy and show him that I can be of service.
Thanks
Nick | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (Build 7600) CPU AMD Phenom Quad core 9950 black edition Motherboard Gigabyte Memory 8Gb Graphics Card 2x XFX Radeon 5850 Sound Card PCI Express X-Fi Titanium / Logitech G35 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP 2410i Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU Jean Tech Storm 700W Case Cooler Master COSMOS S Cooling Akasa Evo Blue Pro Hard Drives 1x 500Gb Seagate
1x 1Tb Seagate
2x 1Tb Hitatchi Internet Speed 12mb |
02 Mar 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
G'day Nick,
I wonder if this might work?
Turn OFF ALL updates, but setup MSE as shown in the image below - setup a schedule scan each morning, and also check the option to run an update of the spyware definitions.
My understanding is that MSE will still update its defintions, as it runs separately from Windows Update.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
02 Mar 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I have MSE setup to check for virus definitions every 4 hours in Task Scheduler. I believe you could set it up to check at whatever time you want in Task Scheduler.
Let me know if you want my Task Scheduler details... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
02 Mar 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (Build 7600) Wales |
Golden pal your a Star, thanks I'll give it a whirl
Also thanks David for the offer
I'll post back on how I get on | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (Build 7600) CPU AMD Phenom Quad core 9950 black edition Motherboard Gigabyte Memory 8Gb Graphics Card 2x XFX Radeon 5850 Sound Card PCI Express X-Fi Titanium / Logitech G35 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP 2410i Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU Jean Tech Storm 700W Case Cooler Master COSMOS S Cooling Akasa Evo Blue Pro Hard Drives 1x 500Gb Seagate
1x 1Tb Seagate
2x 1Tb Hitatchi Internet Speed 12mb |
02 Mar 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
Having been on 'dial-up' for 5 years (live in the boonies)  the best thing to do, is update MSE manually when he dosen't need to use the computer immediately!
He can do these updates in the evening, or when he's doing his chores.
It also depends on the dialup ISP connection. I think I went through all of them to find one that wouldn't disconnect me when downloading updates. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected Internet Speed DSL Antivirus Avira Internet Security Browser IE 9 Other Info ATI HDMI Audio |
03 Mar 2012
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#6 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |
David's Task scheduler tip would be the best way to go, it even suggests it in this page I found that has this MSE Update tool: MSE Update Utility [AddictiveTips Apps] | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
HP Photosmart Plus B210a e_series AIO Printer
Four card readers, and Four USB 2.0 Internet Speed Verizon FIOS 24.57Mbps Down - 5.68Mbps up Antivirus MSE Browser IE9.0.8112.16421-Upd ver 9.0.13, FireFox 19.2, Opera 12.14 Other Info BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A0 11/17/2009
System Specs by Belarc.
Join Date March 27th 2010 at 10:44:15 AM. |
03 Mar 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Solo. |
Hi Nick.
About windows update for MS Office, I remember it was prompted on MS Office first run, I can choose not to change/update. And most likely windows won't include it on its update routines.
Hope I'm not mistaken.
Kevin | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built system OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU CORE i5 Motherboard Intel DH55PJ Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI HD 4650 Sound Card Realtek HD Integrated Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron L1742S; LG Flatron 19"; Toshiba 32" Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024; 1366 x 768 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Power Case Simbadda Cooling Conventional Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
WDC 1 TB Internet Speed 256Kbps Other Info External HDD Transcend 500GB
Dial Up Modem Huawei
Home-made Home Theater
Laptop ASUS K42F, Core i3, 4GB memory, 320GB HDD.
LAptop Fujitsu LH531, Core i3, 4GB Memory, 500 GB HDD, Nvidia VGA |
03 Mar 2012
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#8 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
Using MSE scheduled scan would be the easiest option, but consider...
A missed MSE scheduled scan (and update) does not "run later" if the PC is not on at the scheduled time.
I don't know what it would do if it is on, but the network (dial-up) is not available.
Hopefully it would just end the task silently...
Task Scheduler does have these options:
"Start only if the following network connection is available"
"Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed"
I've never used the combination of options you might prefer to use in this case, and i don't have dial-up... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
03 Mar 2012
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#9 | | W7 x64 3rd Rock from the Sun |
He needs a laptop, which he can run updates on when he's not at home and has access to a higher speed hotspot, and upon which he can run an online anti-virus scan such as NOD32 which is far better than MSE anyway.
I'd forget an onboard anti-virus completely. Slap all his archives onto a secondary partition from the OS, and use Windows Backup after every set of updates. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built machine OS W7 x64 CPU Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios) Memory 4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz Graphics Card Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's Sound Card Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors Monitor(s) Displays Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Cherry PS/2 custom model Mouse Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse PSU OCZ 600w Case Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower Cooling Scythe 140mm Zipang Hard Drives Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner... Internet Speed ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet Antivirus NOD32 Browser Opera Other Info Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner. |
03 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |

Quote: Originally Posted by PooMan UK (remember the poor bugger struggles to turn the PC on and for the first month I was there daily to fill in the 10 or so lines into the spread sheet and mail them, but he seems to have got the hang of it now)
keep him happy and show him that I can be of service.
Thanks
Nick  Gentlemen!, Ladies! let us try to remember the K.I.S.S method.
Are we helping PooMan or his neighbor? This is getting entirely too complicated. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
HP Photosmart Plus B210a e_series AIO Printer
Four card readers, and Four USB 2.0 Internet Speed Verizon FIOS 24.57Mbps Down - 5.68Mbps up Antivirus MSE Browser IE9.0.8112.16421-Upd ver 9.0.13, FireFox 19.2, Opera 12.14 Other Info BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A0 11/17/2009
System Specs by Belarc.
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