| Windows 7: Do not use Combofix on your own!! |
25 Sep 2012
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#51 | | |
Well- again, Im not arguing with the OP other than to say that he was a little overly scarey about a program I have used for years and had no issues with.
I made sure to be cautionary and say *...as a last resort* and that you should always let the admin make the descision on a network. I also stated that with any program that doesnt have MS cert, you use it at your own risk.
The responses to my posting seems to be an attack. I stated my experince with the program and the cautions that should be implimented. You wish me to be silent instead of letting people know that this isn't a scarey program to use on your own machine?
#1 If you dont have your machine backed up and you dont have a disk to restore your machine, you shouldn't be playing with any program like this.
#2 If you have followed the protocols in #1 then use any program you like and learn how it works and what it will do to your machine. Or use a secondary machine to test things on like I do. You learn much more by doing than you will learn anywhere.
#3 If you are working with a network machine, unless you are the Admin, dont do anything on your own. Build a server and play with it so you can make your mistakes in a situation where you dont have to worry about compromising security and or crashing the machine.
#4 The title is system security not network security and Combofix, in my experience, does nothing to mess with your security. I dont use an AV software so my machine is secured by me and since I am not perfect, I run into security issues occationally. And when I go to fix those issues, I do everything else before using Combofix. It has helped me recover from situations I have been told were unrecoverable.
#5 Combofix should NEVER be used as a primary fix. It is a last ditch to recover your system from hijacks, etc.
#6 When you use programs that aren't certified by microsoft, you are using them at your own risk. | My System Specs |
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25 Sep 2012
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#52 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Shane Williams The responses to my posting seems to be an attack. I stated my experince with the program and the cautions that should be implimented. You wish me to be silent instead of letting people know that this isn't a scarey program to use on your own machine? Yes, because a large proportion of people here are the ones looking for help, not giving it out, so it's quite likely that they're not very confident with using a computer. If they see ComboFix fixing lots of issues in this forum they might think that it's a good idea for them to try it without knowing what it could do to their computer. Quote: #1 If you dont have your machine backed up and you dont have a disk to restore your machine, you shouldn't be playing with any program like this. If you want to play with it, then get the necessary training beforehand so you know what you're doing. Quote: #2 If you have followed the protocols in #1 then use any program you like and learn how it works and what it will do to your machine. Or use a secondary machine to test things on like I do. You learn much more by doing than you will learn anywhere. So the 162 A4 pages of ComboFix tutorials are useless then? When everyone can apparently learn on the job. Quote: #4 The title is system security not network security and Combofix, in my experience, does nothing to mess with your security. I dont use an AV software so my machine is secured by me and since I am not perfect, I run into security issues occationally. And when I go to fix those issues, I do everything else before using Combofix. It has helped me recover from situations I have been told were unrecoverable.
#5 Combofix should NEVER be used as a primary fix. It is a last ditch to recover your system from hijacks, etc. You see, you're wrong again. ComboFix performs certain subroutines dependent on what files it detects in the initial scan, if you remove some of these then there's a good chance that others will be missed as a consequence. Perform initial scans (OTL, DDS, GMER etc.), diagnose problems then use the appropriate tools. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Build #1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel i7 3770K @4.5GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V PRO Memory Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz Low Profile (White) Graphics Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 (2GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 23" LG LCD/LED IPS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Desktop 2000 Wireless Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Desktop 2000 Wireless Mouse PSU Corsair TX650W V2 (80+ Bronze) Case NZXT Phantom 410 White Cooling Corsair H100 Water Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 2GB 7200rpm
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25 Sep 2012
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#53 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Tom, you forgot Quote: #6 When you use programs that aren't certified by microsoft, you are using them at your own risk. If we follow this, most would have no software to use. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
25 Sep 2012
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#54 | | |
ComboFix: A guide and tutorial on using ComboFix
ok then... there's the help with Combo fix
And if you DL it, be sure to note that this version has been downloaded over 4 million times
Also note that Combofix themselves give the warnings I stated and the warnings the OP stated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i5-2400 Motherboard MSI P67A-43C Memory 2x4 DDR3 Graphics Card RADEON HD 5450 Sound Card Integrated Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Generic PSU Generic Case Generic Cooling 2 internal and 1 CPU fan Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 500GB SATA @RAID1 |
25 Sep 2012
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#55 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Did you forget you posted this drivel Shane?!?  
Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy 
Quote: Originally Posted by Shane Williams I've never had any training with it. I have used it on several machines to recover from bad virus intrusion where the AV just wasn't enough to fix it. I wouldn't send that kind of warning out unless you are referring to a network situation. Then I would let the HMIC take care of it. On your own machine, I wouldn't use it unless it was a last resort but I wouldn't be sending fear out like the OP did. The OP is a Security expert, and a MVP. I can't get over people saying, "I used it myself, and had no problems". As if that means that will be the case for everyone. The original warning was for a valid reason, and it still applies. A Guy | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
25 Sep 2012
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#56 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Shane Williams That's a general guide on the installation, not the usage. It's designed to save the malware removal experts the hassle of having to explain it each time, instead we give warnings and links. So yes, it's help, but not the help that would make you know how to use CF properly and safely. Quote: And if you DL it, be sure to note that this version has been downloaded over 4 million times Sorry to be blunt, but what's that got to do with anything? Quote: Also note that Combofix themselves give the warnings I stated and the warnings the OP stated. Are these the warnings that you are arguing against? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Build #1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel i7 3770K @4.5GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V PRO Memory Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz Low Profile (White) Graphics Card Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 (2GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 23" LG LCD/LED IPS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 Keyboard Microsoft Desktop 2000 Wireless Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Desktop 2000 Wireless Mouse PSU Corsair TX650W V2 (80+ Bronze) Case NZXT Phantom 410 White Cooling Corsair H100 Water Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 2GB 7200rpm
2x Seagate FreeAgent [500gb] Internet Speed 95 Mb/s Download 70 Mb/s Upload Antivirus Kaspersky Internet Security 2013 + MBAM Pro Browser Firefox |
25 Sep 2012
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#57 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
I can't give some 'rep' to the people who totally "get" this topic (need to spread more around), but the rebuttle of not using Combofix on your own is well documented by them! Thank you team!! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
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25 Sep 2012
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#58 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Thank you Jacee for the original post. Let's hope it educates some. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
25 Sep 2012
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#59 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy Thank you Jacee for the original post. Let's hope it educates some. A Guy Yes! Jacee you've saved many a butt around here. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
26 Sep 2012
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#60 | | |
Well... I guess 14 years of using a program doesn't qualify me as an expert. Nor does 20+ years of working with computers. So I'll leave you *experts* to your certifications.
FYI- it says IT student because due to health issues I lost my career. I went to get a job in the field and couldnt due to a lack of certifications. Not a lack of knowledge. I would have hoped that you would have asked me pertinant questions about the program, etc instead of attacking me. But I can see that without those certs I may as well be trying to convince a congressman not to load a bill with earmarks.
I wish you all well and hope that you have as much luck with your other programs as I have had with this one. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i5-2400 Motherboard MSI P67A-43C Memory 2x4 DDR3 Graphics Card RADEON HD 5450 Sound Card Integrated Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Generic PSU Generic Case Generic Cooling 2 internal and 1 CPU fan Hard Drives 2x Hitachi 500GB SATA @RAID1 Do not use Combofix on your own!! problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:09 AM. | |