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Windows 7: Defender Offline on DVD failed because no internet connection

26 May 2012   #11
pugdog24

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit service pack 1
 
 

many thanks, karlsnooks, for your detailed reply, it really is appreciated. There are lots of us out here just trying to survive that are still learning. I have followed all directions, everything went fine, will now go to my other computer and run the install and update wizard for the 64-bit version of defender offline and cross my fingers. If the microsoft defender offline site had hinted at doing more than deleting all files on a usable usb, and then running the defender offline download to create bootable usb, i would have looked around for what you so kindly furnished.. the only other possibility i know of for a thwart would be the bitlocker disable requirement, but as i understand it, my windows 7 home premium does not have that accessory to deal with, and i can find it nowhere on my system... so will post back later how things went. Again, many thanks for the assist.


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26 May 2012   #12
pugdog24

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit service pack 1
 
 

well, in creating the bootable usb flash drive, i am immediately suspicious, in that both the 'creating the startup usb flash drive' download, and the subsequent 'updating virus and spyware definitions' download were each 61.97 mb. hmmm...
the usb drive shows following files: boot, EFI, sources, bootmgr 4/4/2012 5:54pm file 375kb, bootmgr.efi same date> EFI File 653kb, FilesList64.dll 5/2/2012 2.53pm Application estens... 12kb, and mpam-fex64.exe Application 63,460kb (other than specified, all dated 5/26/2012 6.57pm)...

same result when boots up, same red fail screens, error 0x80072ee7 and need for internet to update definitions...

I do appreciate the effort and assist... if you have any other thoughts or suggestions?? otherwise will likely just try for a factory image restore.
By the way, the issue that originated the thought to use WDO was information regarding system 32 > rundll32.exe, if icon showing as page instead of the application icon, was evidence of infection... anyway, many thanks and will look for another reply, hopefully...
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26 May 2012   #13
m3110w

Win7 Premium 64bit
 
 
For me internet not possible unless in full Windows OS

Hi,

Thanks for the info. I think I'm a special case that is rare. I'm using a cellular modem to get internet. This modem *only* works when the full Windows OS boots up. It doesn't work when the WDO OS boots up. Therefore I'm unable to use WDO because WDO *requires* an active internet connection (System Sweeper did not). I have no other way of getting internet. I'm in India.

I wish there was some way to update the WDO definitions within the full Windows OS, and then boot from the WDO USB stik. However, this doesn't appear to be possible. In any case, even with fully updated definitions, WDO may still *require* active internet on the pc to be scanned.

I remember System Sweeper updated definitions within the full Windows OS, and then you could take the System Sweeper USB to a computer without internet and use it just fine. How I miss those days... *sigh*

If there's any way around this problem, let us know. Thanks for all your kind help.

Kind Regards,

Advait

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
Most problems are caused by either defective usb sticks or failure to prepare the usb stick.

PREPARE A UFD FOR USE (USB FLASH DRIVE)


Run CMD.EXE as administrator
WIN | type CMD.EXE | do NOT hit ENTER | CTRL + SHIFT + ENTER key combo |
ALT + y key combo

WIN=key with Microsoft logo on top

Type following commands and hit ENTER key after each command.
DISKPART starts the DiskPart program
LIST DISK shows numeral assigned to disksnote the numeral assigned to your usb stick
The numeral 2 will be used in this example
SELECT DISK 2
DETAIL DISK the info shown will confirm the correctness of your selection
CLEAN ALL the entire usb stick will be overwritten with zeros
This can take awhile if usb stick has large capacity.
Keep the faith-the DiskPart prompt will eventually return.
CREATE PARTITION PRIMARY create a primary partition on the USB stick
FORMAT FS=NTFS format the partition
ACTIVE the partition can contain operating system startup files
ASSIGN the next available letter is assigned to the USB stick
EXIT exit from the DISKPART program
EXIT exit from the command shell

==================================================================================

for posting snapshots:
Make a snapshot (Snip)
WIN | type SNIP | ENTER | New
Drag the cursor around the area you want to snip.
File | Save as | select save location and name | Save

WIN=key with the Microsoft logo on top.


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27 May 2012   #14
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

The wdo OS, as you call it, doesn't require internet access.

In case you are wondereing, wdo and msss are the same! Microsoft in their infintie wisdom renamed the product to a name that only causes confusion.

Rujn WDO!
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14 Jun 2012   #15
m3110w

Win7 Premium 64bit
 
 
WDO now works on another laptop

OK, I found something interesting. The WDO cd that didn't work in my friend's Vista computer works fine in another old Toshiba laptop running XP-SP3. So maybe WDO has some issues with certain laptops. Maybe WDO doesn't work with some small subset of BIOS's...?

In any case, WDO is now scanning this old Toshiba and working properly. Sweet.

Thanks for all your help on this issue. Cheers!

Tom / Advait

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
The wdo OS, as you call it, doesn't require internet access.

In case you are wondereing, wdo and msss are the same! Microsoft in their infintie wisdom renamed the product to a name that only causes confusion.

Rujn WDO!
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