| Windows 7: Not the Usual Anti-Virus Discussion |
23 May 2012
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Not the Usual Anti-Virus Discussion I'm using Windows 7 Pro 32 bit with Kaspersky Internet Security. For various reasons, I view Kaspersky as at least as good as any of the mainstream commercial software packages. I switched from Norton a few years ago because I was unhappy with the degree to which it bogged down my system. I now find myself in the same situation with Kaspersky.
I'm satisfied with Kaspersky's performance, but I'm wondering if the price I'm paying for protection is too much: a significant slowdown in e-mail, internet, and sometimes even general general computing tasks. It's frustrating to pay for things like broadband and SSD's only to have their speed advantages negated by the protection software. have we all been frightened into using more protection than we really need?
This is a difficult discussion because not everyone will agree about how much protection is enough, and not everyone will experience the same degree of slowdown (or have the same level of tolerance toward it). Nevertheless, I ask the following questions:
Does the average user need a full protection suite as mentioned above?
Are there alternatives to these programs that give acceptable protection with a much smaller resource footprint?
Is MS Security Essentials adequate for general computer protection?
Can Kaspersky (or any of the other big names) be modified or limited in order to speed things back up without compromising the protection they offer? | My System Specs |
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23 May 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
Welcome
Your question requires a subjective answer and here is mine. I truly feel that my protection is at leas as good as the so called paid Suites.
I have Avast (testing now, previously had MSE), the Windows Firewall, Free Malwarebyts and a free program that warns you of any changes, authorized or not, Win Patrol. BillP Studios - WinPatrol 2012
I seem to like Avast over Security Essentials. It has a smaller footprint, checks email in and out, has real time streaming and is customizable. The choice is yours. I think, however, that you can do better than pay for the protection that you need. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
23 May 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
As Rich says, all answers are subjective, but since I've been using Windows 7 I've used Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes.
MSE is much improved since it was launched to replace Microsoft Live Onecare and I've been happy with it as it has kept my computer virus-free.
Admittedly, I'm very choosy as to what I download and what sites I visit, but for free software I think MSE is pretty good. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
23 May 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Bronco Leonard I'm using Windows 7 Pro 32 bit with Kaspersky Internet Security. For various reasons, I view Kaspersky as at least as good as any of the mainstream commercial software packages. I switched from Norton a few years ago because I was unhappy with the degree to which it bogged down my system. I now find myself in the same situation with Kaspersky.
I'm satisfied with Kaspersky's performance, but I'm wondering if the price I'm paying for protection is too much: a significant slowdown in e-mail, internet, and sometimes even general general computing tasks. It's frustrating to pay for things like broadband and SSD's only to have their speed advantages negated by the protection software. have we all been frightened into using more protection than we really need?
This is a difficult discussion because not everyone will agree about how much protection is enough, and not everyone will experience the same degree of slowdown (or have the same level of tolerance toward it). Nevertheless, I ask the following questions:
Does the average user need a full protection suite as mentioned above?
Are there alternatives to these programs that give acceptable protection with a much smaller resource footprint?
Is MS Security Essentials adequate for general computer protection?
Can Kaspersky (or any of the other big names) be modified or limited in order to speed things back up without compromising the protection they offer? I have used several AV programs throughout the years and recently installed Kaspersky on 2 systems. Both systems displayed symptoms of unacceptable behavior afterwards. I have since unintalled, which was problematic on one of the systems. I have used and been satisified with Avira Antivir and MSE.
Just my .02 cents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i5 quad processor Motherboard DP67BG Memory 16 GB Graphics Card Radeon HD 5770 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard MS Wireless Mouse MS Optical Wired PSU Corsair GS800 Case Tower (Generic) Cooling 3 Internal Fans Hard Drives WD 2TB (SATA Internal)
WD 1TB (USB External) Internet Speed 19.4 Mbps |
23 May 2012
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Pick the lightest A/V you can find, and then add Sandboxie.  Worry no more my friend. | My System Specs | | |
23 May 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
Hi,
Its an interesting discussion, and as alluded to the answers are quite subjective. I think the "suites" do an excellent job, but as you have experienced it comes at a price, usually a bit more hogging of the system. There are good alternatives already mentioned here, specifically MSE and Avast, which have excellent reputations, and for the average user this is more than good enough.
An additional important consideration is to adopt a layered approach to security. For example : you might have MSE as you primary resident anti-malware software, but also keep a second option (usually not real-time protection, but not exclsuively so) handy that you would run occasional scans with. The principle here is that a single anti-malware product cannot catch everything out there (despite them having you believe that it can), and that the second product might - its no guarantee, but you improve the probability in your favour.
Kaspersky could probably be tweaked with its own settings in an attempt to reduce you hogging you see, but you will only know for sure by experimenting with these settings on a trial and error basis.
You haven't asked specifically for examples, and I'm loath to include it here as it tends to end in a flood of suggestions, but my own smaller footprint system is:
MSE (resident)
Malwarebytes (resident)
WinPatrol
Occasional scans using ESET on-line scanner
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
23 May 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 SoCal USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by elstupido Pick the lightest A/V you can find, and then add Sandboxie.  Worry no more my friend. Couldn't have said it better myself! For me, the lightest AV that I could find is none at all. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
23 May 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
Sandboxie does cost money to have, and not that easy to use for beginners. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
24 May 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Gurgaon, India |
AutoSandbox comes integrated with Avast! Free A-V. That said OP should please indicate whether he uses the computer for personal, business or other use.
If for personal use the degree of security needed is not that great especially if he keeps back up images. In my case I use Avast! Free A-V, Malwarebytes that I run once in a way and Comodo Firewall for personal use and I have never suffered a crippling virus attack in over a decade. I understand that MSE is as good as Avast! Free A-V but I have not used it and is I think without the AutoSandbox.
The main thing for personal use to look for is a program which is not a resource hog. I have therefore used McAfee, Norton, ZASS, Kaspersky and many other A-Vs and then abandoned them all for their resource-hogging. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Motherboard Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC Memory 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1280X960 Keyboard COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse iBall Laser Precise Speedster Hard Drives 1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes
2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes Internet Speed 4 mb/sec |
24 May 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 SoCal USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 Sandboxie does cost money to have, and not that easy to use for beginners. It comes in both free and paid versions. The free version is just as robust as the paid version, but lacks a few features such as always starting a particular browser in the sandbox. The paid version is a lifetime license, so it's a one time purchase for a very reasonable price, and you "own" the software forever. Also, there are many good tutorials on YouTube that would help even the newest computer user to use sandboxie. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Not the Usual Anti-Virus Discussion problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM. | |