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18 Oct 2014   #621
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

I currently use Microsoft Security Essentials running in the background for basic ongoing AV protection including daily scheduled scans, and twice a week or so I run MBAM 1.75 free version manually for a back-up malware check. If the new MBAM version is finally sorted out and doesn't involve turning what is currently a 10 minutes quick scan into a 2 hour task then I'll switch to it when the 1.75 support ceases, but if not then I too would be interested in the best and nearest alternative. I use both my machines for basic online gaming (MMOs) and browsing, plus (until the end of the year) checking Word doc reports by way of my work. I don't download movies or music, but stream the odd video on YouTube etc.


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18 Oct 2014   #622
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

From what I've read, some people have issues with Ver. 2 and some don't.
I just updated my Test box W7 x64 MBAM version from ...1012 to the latest ...1025.
The Threat scan time is basically the same for me, apx. 9 minutes.

I don't store data on the [C] drive, just the OS and Programs.
My [C] drive is apx. 40 GB.
My Test box is an old AMD dual core, OS installed on a spinner HD.
I have the MBAM paid version, for the real-time protection.
Also, on this OS I run real-time: Avast AV, EMET, Winpatrol.

I think you would need to test the latest version on your system to know if the the scan time issue is fixed for you.

I always create a System Backup Image before making changes to give me a quick way to undo things if they don't work out.

hth,
David
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18 Oct 2014   #623
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

I also have MBAM Premium with real-time protection. So I don't see a point in doing manual scans like Threat scan. I don't do manual or scheduled scans with my AV either because of its real-time scan. The only time I do one is before making a new system image backup, but it's probably not necessary then either. If it would find anything, it's probably not anything dangerous. Otherwise the real-time scan would've detected it.

With the exception of a manual scan finding an executable file that real-time previously missed, because of updated definitions, but then I'm already in trouble.....
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18 Oct 2014   #624
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
I also have MBAM Premium with real-time protection. So I don't see a point in doing manual scans like Threat scan.
I agree.
I only did a manual scan to test the new program version.
Before I stated it's not taking 2 hours, I wanted to be sure ...
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18 Oct 2014   #625
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

I manually scan with everything once a week before making my weekly images. Just to be sure, the malware writers are sneaky...changing things that appear normal when 1st installed/downloaded. I don't expect that to happen, but hey, I'm making basically a rescue image, going to make sure it's clean

A Guy
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18 Oct 2014   #626
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
I manually scan with everything once a week before making my weekly images. Just to be sure, the malware writers are sneaky...changing things that appear normal when 1st installed/downloaded. I don't expect that to happen, but hey, I'm making basically a rescue image, going to make sure it's clean

A Guy
Excellent advice. I do the same thing. It would be foolish to use an image that is infected.
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19 Oct 2014   #627
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
I also have MBAM Premium with real-time protection. So I don't see a point in doing manual scans like Threat scan. I don't do manual or scheduled scans with my AV either because of its real-time scan. The only time I do one is before making a new system image backup, but it's probably not necessary then either. If it would find anything, it's probably not anything dangerous. Otherwise the real-time scan would've detected it.

With the exception of a manual scan finding an executable file that real-time previously missed, because of updated definitions, but then I'm already in trouble.....
For being a security enthusiast, I am very surprised you take this route. I would think you would know better then that.
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19 Oct 2014   #628
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
I also have MBAM Premium with real-time protection. So I don't see a point in doing manual scans like Threat scan. I don't do manual or scheduled scans with my AV either because of its real-time scan. The only time I do one is before making a new system image backup, but it's probably not necessary then either. If it would find anything, it's probably not anything dangerous. Otherwise the real-time scan would've detected it.

With the exception of a manual scan finding an executable file that real-time previously missed, because of updated definitions, but then I'm already in trouble.....
For being a security enthusiast, I am very surprised you take this route. I would think you would know better then that.
I'll try to explain it better then:

I missed to explain the possibility of other benefits with a manual scan, like heuristics. Besides that I see no point in for example scanning all files in a manual scan. The most important thing is to scan all files used in real-time. Other files shouldn't pose any danger even if infected. As long as they are never used they pose no threat, and if/when they're used the real-time will check them.

In my experience, the only time a manual scan has detected something that real-time hasn't:
  • an executable file type that hasn't been used/run lately (due to updated definitions)
    But if it would run after the definitions were updated then the real-time would pick it up
  • an non-executable file type like zip (but if a process would've used the infected file in the zip then the real-time would pick it up)
  • a heuristic detection (this might reveal something "bad" but has higher risk of false positives)
    But I rely more on my AV's HIPS protection than the heuristic detection from a manual scan

Note: This is based on experience of my AV. How exactly other AVs work with heuristics and HIPS (and detection rates) I can't say, or even if they have those features. Unlike many others here I wouldn't for example recommend MSE to anyone.

PS. I should also add that I'm more cautious than the average user and check downloaded files on VirusTotal and HerdProtect before using them. I often also do manual scans on the downloaded files to get the heuristics checked. And I check the digital signatures too. First time I launch a new program I check it in Process Explorer to see if it's a packed imaged which is unusual and more suspicious. I also check all DLL's the program uses(lower pane VirusTotal check in Process Explorer). If it's not a commonly used program I launch it through Sandboxie the first time.
Haven't had an infection in years and that's why I only do manual scans before creating new system images, like A Guy, I just don't do it as often.
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19 Oct 2014   #629
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
I also have MBAM Premium with real-time protection. So I don't see a point in doing manual scans like Threat scan. I don't do manual or scheduled scans with my AV either because of its real-time scan. The only time I do one is before making a new system image backup, but it's probably not necessary then either. If it would find anything, it's probably not anything dangerous. Otherwise the real-time scan would've detected it.

With the exception of a manual scan finding an executable file that real-time previously missed, because of updated definitions, but then I'm already in trouble.....
For being a security enthusiast, I am very surprised you take this route. I would think you would know better then that.
I'll try to explain it better then:

I missed to explain the possibility of other benefits with a manual scan, like heuristics. Besides that I see no point in for example scanning all files in a manual scan. The most important thing is to scan all files used in real-time. Other files shouldn't pose any danger even if infected. As long as they are never used they pose no threat, and if/when they're used the real-time will check them.

In my experience, the only time a manual scan has detected something that real-time hasn't:
  • an executable file type that hasn't been used/run lately (due to updated definitions)
    But if it would run after the definitions were updated then the real-time would pick it up
  • an non-executable file type like zip (but if a process would've used the infected file in the zip then the real-time would pick it up)
  • a heuristic detection (this might reveal something "bad" but has higher risk of false positives)
    But I rely more on my AV's HIPS protection than the heuristic detection from a manual scan

Note: This is based on experience of my AV. How exactly other AVs work with heuristics and HIPS (and detection rates) I can't say, or even if they have those features. Unlike many others here I wouldn't for example recommend MSE to anyone.

PS. I should also add that I'm more cautious than the average user and check downloaded files on VirusTotal and HerdProtect before using them. I often also do manual scans on the downloaded files to get the heuristics checked. And I check the digital signatures too. First time I launch a new program I check it in Process Explorer to see if it's a packed imaged which is unusual and more suspicious. I also check all DLL's the program uses(lower pane VirusTotal check in Process Explorer). If it's not a commonly used program I launch it through Sandboxie the first time.
Haven't had an infection in years and that's why I only do manual scans before creating new system images, like A Guy, I just don't do it as often.
I gotcha. Different strokes for different folks. I Appreciate the explanation though.
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21 Oct 2014   #630
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Nice terms agreement via mbam,
Did y'all read mbam can abandon lifetime subscriptions at any time they want too and without notice
Malwarebytes | Website Terms of Service
Cheers.
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