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23 Oct 2014   #651
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Technically speaking sas and all of it's processes should of already been in the malware exclusions along with your antivirus program


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23 Oct 2014   #652
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Technically speaking sas and all of it's processes should of already been in the malware exclusions along with your antivirus program
I don't agree. It's never been a problem before. I dislike having to put an anti-malware program or AV in an exclusion list since it's possible they could get infected (granted, it would be a remote chance). One of MBAM's claim to fame is its ability to play well with AVs and other anti-malware programs.
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23 Oct 2014   #653
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I believe it's the costs of relying on multiply security utilities
I exclude each from each others scans MSE/ MBAM/ SAS it's important when the pro/ premium services are used,
Each is a bit more aggressive but even with a free version I would exclude it from scanning another security utility,

When a utility tags or quarantines an item is it really necessary for another to tag the same item ;/
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23 Oct 2014   #654
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I do something that might be helpful for others.

Example:
When I scan with lets say SAS and it does find something. I check the log and then remove the problem found. Then if need be print the log but in all cases I delete the log.
That way when I use another program to scan it doesn't see the logs of the previous scan.

If the problem found is removed and the logs are removed to my way of thinking their is less chance of a false positive.

I have never had to change setting in security programs or firewall to allow other security program to work properly.

I use MSE, SAS and Malwarebytes Premium and they all play well together.
When I use other downloaded security programs like Eset On Line scanner I do not have to change any setting on my systems or security programs.
Windows 7 built in firewall is at default settings and I just let it do what it was designed to do.

I update and scan manually with all security programs. I do not like scheduling or auto updating anything. Other than that I just let my security run in the background and do what they are designed to do.
I works for me.

To all those new users.
When you update or scan with security programs manually you MUST remember to do just that.
I check for security updates several times a day. It doesn't take long because your updates are never far behind.
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24 Oct 2014   #655
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

I don't think a log can cause a false positive. A file in quarantine though might.

One of the strengths of MBAM is zero-day threats but also what's called zero-hour threats. So I have automatic updates every 30 minutes.

If I had a program that would require whitelist/exclusion/ignore then I wouldn't use it. As simple as that IMO.
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24 Oct 2014   #656
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

This last incident is an example of why excluding another trusted real time protection security program is worth doing,
Of which I only have three trusted programs when that trust is in doubt why have it at all,
Mbam has in the past created a little doubt in it's abilities to be consistent
Exclusions are needed and auto quarantine is a luxury of the past as well,
Cheers.
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24 Oct 2014   #657
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

Well we can't agree about everything I'm with Lady Fitzgerald on this one. I want each AV-like program to check the others. You shouldn't trust any program to 100%, not even security software.

Antivirus products riddled with security flaws, researcher says | PCWorld
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24 Oct 2014   #658
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

I've been using MBAM real-time for many years now, with the "Pro" lifetime real-time license.
I got burned on their "notably worst FP" a few years ago that bricked many systems, myself included.

That's when I changed from the default hourly DB update, to 2 hours...
They said we have fixed the FP problem, it won't happen again ...
Well, there have been been FPs since then ... read the history.

I now have auto update set to 4 hours (or more) for my home PCs.
IMHO it's a crap-shoot, if the latest MBAM DB update will cause problems ...
The more often I get updates, the more likely I'll get hit with another FP.
The longer I wait for an update, the more likely a new malware might creep in somehow.
Personally I've had more problems with MBAM updates than I have with malware that MBAM should prevent...
Thus, the crap-shoot IMHO.

I recently learned "Don't Auto-Quarantine" for real-time really means wait 40 seconds and then auto quarantine ...
Wonderful, If I'm not sitting in front of the PC, it may get bricked in 40 seconds !

I use to recommend and install MBAM Pro for relatives and friends I personally support.
I've become the "family go-to guy" for PC help.
Most people I help are senior citizens, 65-90+ years old (me too )
Most of these folks only have 1 PC.
With the new subscription license, their cost would be ~25$ per year per PC for MBAM Premium.
Is it worth it anymore? not IMHO.

I cringe every time I hear of another MBAM incident.
I wonder who will call me with a PC that won't work or has issues that I have to fix remotely for MBAM I recommended.

I use MBAM real-time and I'm updated to the latest version 1025 on my home PCs.
I don't know what to do or recommend for the folks I've helped install MBAM real-time on their PC, or here in the forums.

I think MBAM is first in class at malware detection, perhaps almost a monopoly in this.
What other product(s) really competes with them ???
I also think they are quite poor in usability and listening to the customer.

I certainly won't buy MBAM and give it away as a gift ever again for security concerned people I help that would not buy it themselves for whatever reason.
Been there, done that, no more...

No disrespect intended to anyone by me, just my 2 cents.
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24 Oct 2014   #659
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

In four years of use I've always used mbam's email support slow but always polite
Something the forum support guys need to learn,
Marginalizing will catch up to them eventually,
People do read forums even mbam's so fyi if your going to be lock happy you might as well delete the locked threads to get rid of the bad p.r.
Although they do bury them pretty well
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24 Oct 2014   #660
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
Most of these folks only have 1 PC.
With the new subscription license, their cost would be ~25$ per year per PC for MBAM Premium.
Is it worth it anymore? not IMHO.

I cringe every time I hear of another MBAM incident.
I wonder who will call me with a PC that won't work or has issues that I have to fix remotely for MBAM I recommended.

I use MBAM real-time and I'm updated to the latest version 1025 on my home PCs.
I don't know what to do or recommend for the folks I've helped install MBAM real-time on their PC, or here in the forums.

I think MBAM is first in class at malware detection, perhaps almost a monopoly in this.
What other product(s) really competes with them ???
I also think they are quite poor in usability and listening to the customer.

I certainly won't buy MBAM and give it away as a gift ever again for security concerned people I help that would not buy it themselves for whatever reason.
Been there, done that, no more...
I completely agree with this sentiment. Its factual and based on documented experience by many users. The question is, will Malwarebytes sit up and take notice of the fact that their reputation, at least here, is somewhat tarnished, and going doing the drain with each update? I'm not so sure.
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