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22 Mar 2015   #841
DavidE

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jonnyhillow View Post
Has Mbam released a stable version thats newer than 2.04.1028 or is it still a beta ?

Thank you
2.1.4.1018 is now the official latest version (not a beta or Release Candidate).
See post #1 of this thread for details.


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22 Mar 2015   #842
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jonnyhillow View Post
Has Mbam released a stable version thats newer than 2.04.1028 or is it still a beta ?

Thank you
2.1.4.1018 is the current, GA, release build, as explained here

As explained in that sticky topic, it is not YET available through the internal auto-updater.
That process is scheduled to begin this week and is likely to be throttled.
As of this moment, as likewise explained in that sticky, the new build is available only as a standalone installer from the Malwarebytes web site.

>>If you are already running 2.1.4.1018 RC3, then there is no need to update. It is the same build.

Thank you,
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22 Mar 2015   #843
DavidE

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See my responses as bolded

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
David:

I note that those pix from Macrium say "detected as a function of real-time protection". I wonder if that necessarily includes downloaded definition updates.

I don't know what this means. Are you asking if a new definition update could be detected as malware ?
As I understand it a new definition update can immediately detect malware that was not detected previously.
Isn't that what happened in 2013 when the bad update treated OS system files as malware (incorrectly) ?

Maybe the ideal config would be to auto-quarantine the "malware detected" classification and not quarantine the "non-malware detected", but that's not available in the controls.

Look in MBAM GUI > Settings > Detection and Protection
In Non-Malware Protection there are drop-down lists for PUP and PUM detections, with 3 choices.
Maybe you want to try the Warn user about detections choice ?
I have always used the treat detections as malware choice.

A 40 second window is so short as to be useless. No one can research anything in that time. It may as well be 5 seconds, to better avoid what might happen in that 35 second differential.

I agree, and this has been discussed a lot on the MBAM forum.
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22 Mar 2015   #844
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I don't know how to clean mbam better than a total clean install of win-7 on both machines and issue default of realtime 5 minutes remain
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22 Mar 2015   #845
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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see response in blue:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post

I don't know what this means. Are you asking if a new definition update could be detected as malware ?
As I understand it a new definition update can immediately detect malware that was not detected previously.
Isn't that what happened in 2013 when the bad update treated OS system files as malware (incorrectly) ?


I was referring to the text shown in the pix you posted in post 836. Yes, I assume it means that a mere definition update can trigger "real time protection" immediately and that that is what happened in 2013. It just doesn't say so explicitly.


Look in MBAM GUI > Settings > Detection and Protection
In Non-Malware Protection there are drop-down lists for PUP and PUM detections, with 3 choices.
Maybe you want to try the Warn user about detections choice ?
I have always used the treat detections as malware choice.


I'm aware of those settings and have chosen warn for PUP and to treat PUM as malware. I do note that the "non-malware detected" warning in your post 836 apparently applies to both PUP and PUM, per the text shown.

I'm just trying to arrive at best practices, taking into account the possibility of disastrous malware versus the possibility of an unfortunate but not disastrous false positive. Not disastrous in the sense that I can presumably recover via an image. Barring new info, I'd rather be bricked and recover via image than be seriously infected.

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22 Mar 2015   #846
DavidE

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Quote:
I'm aware of those settings and have chosen warn for PUP and to treat PUM as malware. I do note that the "non-malware detected" warning in your post 836 apparently applies to both PUP and PUM, per the text shown.

I'm just trying to arrive at best practices, taking into account the possibility of disastrous malware versus the possibility of an unfortunate but not disastrous false positive. Not disastrous in the sense that I can presumably recover via an image. Barring new info, I'd rather be bricked and recover via image than be seriously infected.
Hopefully if you have selected different choices for PUP and PUM, MBAM will handle PUP and PUM differently, as you chose.
I think the documentation just shows what can happen...and is not as detailed for all possibilities you are asking about ?

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.

I too would like to know what is a best practice, and best settings.

A long time ago i tried to find "benign test malware files" so i could test them to see what would happen and make my choices accordingly.
I never found files to test all scenarios, so i make my best guess, and will change settings if anything ever happens and i learn i could handle it better.
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22 Mar 2015   #847
jonnyhillow

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks for the responses gentleman .
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23 Mar 2015   #848
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.
While creating backup images is clearly desirable, it is not a practical option for everyone - especially for those of us with very little knowledge of computers and just running one or perhaps two computers for casual home use. The various strategies and guides on this forum are excellent, but very complex for those of us with little or no knowledge of such things. I must try and get some sort of grasp on it, however, as while malware may be the number one threat to the stability of our computers, these days the monthly Windows Updates come a close second!
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23 Mar 2015   #849
jonnyhillow

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Seffrid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post

I totally agree on using a backup image for recovery, that's what i do, and that's how i recovered in 2013.
Unfortunately not everyone creates backups, and then learn a lesson when any disaster happens.
While creating backup images is clearly desirable, it is not a practical option for everyone - especially for those of us with very little knowledge of computers and just running one or perhaps two computers for casual home use. The various strategies and guides on this forum are excellent, but very complex for those of us with little or no knowledge of such things. I must try and get some sort of grasp on it, however, as while malware may be the number one threat to the stability of our computers, these days the monthly Windows Updates come a close second!

Thats exactly what i have found also. Most are written by people with an amazing wealth of knowledge and even the most basic and simple things to them can be a real nightmare and total confusion for many others.

They are not as simple as some may think but they are very valuable for sure and much appreciated. Of course some authors make it considerably less confusing than others as well .


I should note that when i first got a computer and read a lot of the tutorials i was completely at a loss , it was just so hard to get through any of them for me .

Nowadays i know considerably more and it has become easier but there are more than a few that are still quite difficult.

On the other hand , without them i would just heave my computer through a window there's no question about that , imo no other site can match Seven forums tutorials , so please keep them and by all means add more if you wish .
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23 Mar 2015   #850
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Seffrid and jonnyhillow.

Many members of this forum are limited to some degree of computer knowledge. That includes me. No one knows it all but some are closer than others. That is why we help each other to learn.

One of the reasons I spend time on this forum is to learn and gather more knowledge.
Using the Forums Tutorial is a great way to gather more knowledge.
Their is a mass of information about Back Ups in those tutorial and many members that will assist if need be.

Myself I'm here to help others and learn from others.

I do understand that at times it looks difficult to do something but on the most part with proper guidance it goes quite smoothly.

One just has to want to learn and follow instructions.
I'm also just a plain old home user with no degrees of any kind in computing that surly needs help from others to learn. Yes I have and do accept other members knowledge. It's offered freely to anybody who wants to have it.

Here is the main page for different backup methods. Take a gander through them when you get time and request help by starting a thread.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutsearch.php?q=backups


I'm not a expert in backups but I know where I can find some.
Right here on the Seven Forum.
To be honest I'm not a expert in anything computing.
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