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Windows 7: UAC and Administrator privileges

22 Sep 2009   #11
Barman58

Windows 8.1 Pro x64 x3 + Windows 10 Preview, Ubuntu
 
 

Thinking back that could have been the case with my instance - unless they (MS) have closed the loophole in the RTM


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22 Sep 2009   #12
sup3rsprt

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Still not working for me in Win7. Maybe I'm just slow...

The UAC disable trick only works if I make a task as an administrator and run it using administrator credentials. I think that is all the trick was designed to do...stop the UAC prompt while you're an admin.

Since XP is able to start processes as a different user I'm beginning to think this is a bug in Windows 7. I did get about 2 or 3 strange errors along the way. Even a null pointer reference
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23 Sep 2009   #13
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Hi Wally,

The way to get around the admin problem at start-up is by use of the task scheduler.

Create a task to start the program at start-up for the standard user accounts, (I think you will need one for each ), using your credentials, and make sure you select run with highest credentials

Has got me out of similar problems in the past
Thanks Nigel, and sorry for the delay. Busy day today.
I ended up reverting the whole ownership and " Run as Admin" settings, it made my computer slower overall.
Do you guys recommend I try the task scheduling you suggested, given SS's situation? I am running RC 7100.
Tks
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24 Sep 2009   #14
Barman58

Windows 8.1 Pro x64 x3 + Windows 10 Preview, Ubuntu
 
 

I think that this "trick" needs more research.

Theoretically if the task is set up to run the application as the admin user with the correct password and with the highest credentials - it should run without the elevation prompt

If the task is then set to run at the login of another user the access level of the user should not matter

This is I'm sure what used to happen with the "AT" command which the command underneath the task scheduler GUI, Obviously there is the now extra step of the UAC.

Will try to find an app that has the issue and try various task set-ups, though not sure when time will be available - there is also the issue of apps that are written pre UAC and those which are UAC aware - will these behave differently

It may be that this is an oversight, (OK Bug! ), on Microsoft's part - if so I can see this causing major issues in the enterprise where this requirement is a common one
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24 Sep 2009   #15
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 
It worked (kinda)

I somehow got it to work. I am not sure how; if the problem was that the tasks were not actually running at all or if they needed to run under Admin privilieges.

First, they were not in Startup, they were Scheduled Tasks to run at log on. They were showing at Scheduled Tasks for the Standard users. I tried to have them run under the Admin account, with highest privileges, didn't work.

Then I went into the Admin, Scheduled Tasks and noticed they had errors, they apparenlty had not run. I then chenged to run under the Admin with highest privilieges, now they are running and they do not pop up anymore at the Standard User log on.

All in all it was a solution. I don't know if applicable in the cases where the task is running normally and UAC is asking for permission under a Standard User, maybe...

Thanks Nigel, thanks SS
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25 Sep 2009   #16
sup3rsprt

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Yes I think that much did work for me before. but the problem I had was creating a task for a standard user such that it would run with administrative credentials without the Admin ever having to log in.

Did you manage to get the process run with admin credentials after you reboot and log in as a standard user? Ultimately, I think you want it so you never have to log in. When your kids log in, the process should be started under your admin credentials.
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26 Sep 2009   #17
wallyinnc

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Hi SS
Yes, that is how it is working
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