| Windows 7: UAC and Administrator privileges |
22 Sep 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Thinking back that could have been the case with my instance - unless they (MS) have closed the loophole in the RTM | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
22 Sep 2009
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#12 | | |
Still not working for me in Windows 7. Maybe I'm just slow...
The UAC disable trick only works if I make a task as an administrator and run it using administrator credentials. I think that is all the trick was designed to do...stop the UAC prompt while you're an admin.
Since XP is able to start processes as a different user I'm beginning to think this is a bug in Windows 7. I did get about 2 or 3 strange errors along the way. Even a null pointer reference | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
23 Sep 2009
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#13 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Hi Wally,
The way to get around the admin problem at start-up is by use of the task scheduler.
Create a task to start the program at start-up for the standard user accounts, (I think you will need one for each ), using your credentials, and make sure you select run with highest credentials
Has got me out of similar problems in the past  Thanks Nigel, and sorry for the delay. Busy day today.
I ended up reverting the whole ownership and " Run as Admin" settings, it made my computer slower overall.
Do you guys recommend I try the task scheduling you suggested, given SS's situation? I am running RC 7100.
Tks | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA Internet Speed DSL 2Mb (recently getting 1.65M!) |
24 Sep 2009
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#14 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
I think that this "trick" needs more research.
Theoretically if the task is set up to run the application as the admin user with the correct password and with the highest credentials - it should run without the elevation prompt
If the task is then set to run at the login of another user the access level of the user should not matter
This is I'm sure what used to happen with the "AT" command which the command underneath the task scheduler GUI, Obviously there is the now extra step of the UAC.
Will try to find an app that has the issue and try various task set-ups, though not sure when time will be available - there is also the issue of apps that are written pre UAC and those which are UAC aware - will these behave differently
It may be that this is an oversight, (OK Bug!  ), on Microsoft's part - if so I can see this causing major issues in the enterprise where this requirement is a common one | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
24 Sep 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |
It worked (kinda) I somehow got it to work. I am not sure how; if the problem was that the tasks were not actually running at all or if they needed to run under Admin privilieges.
First, they were not in Startup, they were Scheduled Tasks to run at log on. They were showing at Scheduled Tasks for the Standard users. I tried to have them run under the Admin account, with highest privileges, didn't work.
Then I went into the Admin, Scheduled Tasks and noticed they had errors, they apparenlty had not run. I then chenged to run under the Admin with highest privilieges, now they are running and they do not pop up anymore at the Standard User log on.
All in all it was a solution. I don't know if applicable in the cases where the task is running normally and UAC is asking for permission under a Standard User, maybe...
Thanks Nigel, thanks SS
10-3 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA Internet Speed DSL 2Mb (recently getting 1.65M!) |
25 Sep 2009
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#16 | | |
Yes I think that much did work for me before. but the problem I had was creating a task for a standard user such that it would run with administrative credentials without the Admin ever having to log in.
Did you manage to get the process run with admin credentials after you reboot and log in as a standard user? Ultimately, I think you want it so you never have to log in. When your kids log in, the process should be started under your admin credentials. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
26 Sep 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |
Hi SS
Yes, that is how it is working | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
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