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Windows 7: UAC and Administrator privileges

22 Sep 2009   #1

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 
UAC and Administrator privileges

Hi everybody
I have one Adminstrator account, for myself, and Standard Users for my kids.

There are a few programs from ASUS (update checker etc) that run at startup without a UAC notification when I log in to my account, but will ask for the Admin password when logging in the Standard User accounts. I can't get a snapshot of it since UAC disables everything (can I?)

I have tried to followng:
- set the programs to run as Administrator, per this tutorial (Run as Administrator[2]=Security System Tools)
- Gave "Users" full control of the programs
- Gave a specific account both full control and ownership of the programs. UAC still asks for the password when logging into that account

I have Parental Control turned on. Would that cause this issue (the dialog box I get is UAC)?

There is no apparent issue when we deny the access via UAC and the programs do not load. I would prefer that they load accordingly though.


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22 Sep 2009   #2

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Well the problem is that the ASUS programs require administrator privileges. Maybe you should disable those programs for your kids and just leave them enabled for your account. Is that an option?

BTW, have you tried it this way?

Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create

Maybe you can configure those programs to run automatically under your username and password. Kind of like how you can configure services to run under a certain account (by having the computer remember the credentials for that account).
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22 Sep 2009   #3

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Thanks supersprt.

Yep, I tried to have them run under Admin privileges. I can't use the instructions you referred to, they are running as startup programs, not from a shortcut.

How would I configure htem to run automatically under my username and password?

I am now seriously consider to just disable them. After I set them to run under Admin, everything is much slower . . . I don't think it is a coincidence
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22 Sep 2009   #4

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

First you make the task and shortcut as detailed in the tutorial. Use your username and password as credentials. Then you can put that shortcut in your kids start menu "Startup" folder.

You will want to disable the non-admin versions from starting. You can use a tool called Autoruns for that.

Autoruns for Windows
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22 Sep 2009   #5

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Hey Walter I think maybe I'm wrong about that, sorry.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
If you mean creating elevated shortcuts for programs, then the only way a non-administrator account can run them is to provide the administrator's password when prompted by UAC. Otherwise a Standard or Guest account will not be able to run anything that requires UAC permission to run as administrator.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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22 Sep 2009   #6

Windows 7 x64 finally!
 
 

Thanks supersprt for continuing to look into it. +10! (I "+repped" you the other day, it won't let me do it again, but you deserve)!
Per Shawn's info I am stuck with the present behavior of UAC. I am downloading Autoruns and will play with it a little anyway. If nothing else it will help disable them at startup. I will let you know if I get to anything. Tks
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22 Sep 2009   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2
 
 

Hi Wally,

The way to get around the admin problem at start-up is by use of the task scheduler.

Create a task to start the program at start-up for the standard user accounts, (I think you will need one for each ), using your credentials, and make sure you select run with highest credentials

Has got me out of similar problems in the past
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22 Sep 2009   #8

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Hi Barman, that's actually what we've been discussing. but it doesn't seem to work. You can create a scheduled task but when a standard user runs it he will be prompted by UAC for the administrator password.

See where I quoted Shawn 3 posts up.
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22 Sep 2009   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2
 
 

Oh - I have had it working - on earlier versions of 7 - are you getting the elevate prompt or just not working at all? and are all other start-ups for the program removed / disabled.
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22 Sep 2009   #10

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

I'll have to try this again, because I just did it in Win XP and it works.

Maybe were I went wrong is trying to start the task during user logon instead of system startup.
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