| Windows 7: UAC and Administrator privileges |
22 Sep 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |
UAC and Administrator privileges Hi everybody
I have one Adminstrator account, for myself, and Standard Users for my kids.
There are a few programs from ASUS (update checker etc) that run at startup without a UAC notification when I log in to my account, but will ask for the Admin password when logging in the Standard User accounts. I can't get a snapshot of it since UAC disables everything (can I?)
I have tried to followng:
- set the programs to run as Administrator, per this tutorial ( Run as Administrator[2]=Security System Tools)
- Gave "Users" full control of the programs
- Gave a specific account both full control and ownership of the programs. UAC still asks for the password when logging into that account
I have Parental Control turned on. Would that cause this issue (the dialog box I get is UAC)?
There is no apparent issue when we deny the access via UAC and the programs do not load. I would prefer that they load accordingly though. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA Internet Speed DSL 2Mb (recently getting 1.65M!) |
22 Sep 2009
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#2 | | |
Well the problem is that the ASUS programs require administrator privileges. Maybe you should disable those programs for your kids and just leave them enabled for your account. Is that an option?
BTW, have you tried it this way? Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create
Maybe you can configure those programs to run automatically under your username and password. Kind of like how you can configure services to run under a certain account (by having the computer remember the credentials for that account). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
22 Sep 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |
Thanks supersprt.
Yep, I tried to have them run under Admin privileges. I can't use the instructions you referred to, they are running as startup programs, not from a shortcut.
How would I configure htem to run automatically under my username and password?
I am now seriously consider to just disable them. After I set them to run under Admin, everything is much slower . . . I don't think it is a coincidence | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA Internet Speed DSL 2Mb (recently getting 1.65M!) |
22 Sep 2009
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#4 | | |
First you make the task and shortcut as detailed in the tutorial. Use your username and password as credentials. Then you can put that shortcut in your kids start menu "Startup" folder.
You will want to disable the non-admin versions from starting. You can use a tool called Autoruns for that. Autoruns for Windows | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
22 Sep 2009
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#5 | | |
Hey Walter I think maybe I'm wrong about that, sorry. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Brink If you mean creating elevated shortcuts for programs, then the only way a non-administrator account can run them is to provide the administrator's password when prompted by UAC. Otherwise a Standard or Guest account will not be able to run anything that requires UAC permission to run as administrator.
Hope this helps,
Shawn | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
22 Sep 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 x64 finally! North Carolina |
Thanks supersprt for continuing to look into it. +10! (I "+repped" you the other day, it won't let me do it again, but you deserve)!
Per Shawn's info I am stuck with the present behavior of UAC. I am downloading Autoruns and will play with it a little anyway. If nothing else it will help disable them at startup. I will let you know if I get to anything. Tks | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA Internet Speed DSL 2Mb (recently getting 1.65M!) |
22 Sep 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Hi Wally,
The way to get around the admin problem at start-up is by use of the task scheduler.
Create a task to start the program at start-up for the standard user accounts, (I think you will need one for each ), using your credentials, and make sure you select run with highest credentials
Has got me out of similar problems in the past | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
22 Sep 2009
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#8 | | |
Hi Barman, that's actually what we've been discussing. but it doesn't seem to work. You can create a scheduled task but when a standard user runs it he will be prompted by UAC for the administrator password.
See where I quoted Shawn 3 posts up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. |
22 Sep 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Oh - I have had it working - on earlier versions of 7 - are you getting the elevate prompt or just not working at all? and are all other start-ups for the program removed / disabled. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
22 Sep 2009
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#10 | | |
I'll have to try this again, because I just did it in Win XP and it works.
Maybe were I went wrong is trying to start the task during user logon instead of system startup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to list. OS XP, Seven, 2008R2 CPU AMD, Intel, VIA Motherboard Various Memory Corsair, Kingston, etc. Graphics Card ATI, NVIDIA Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Keyboard qwerty Hard Drives Maxtor, Western Digital Internet Speed 22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server Other Info All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality. UAC and Administrator privileges problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:52 AM. | |