| Windows 7: Security software compatibility |
01 Nov 2012
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#1 | | Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit The Republic of Vermont, North America |
Security software compatibility Hello. I am just learning about security, and I've been told I should consider switching from the built in Windows 7 firewall to ZoneAlarm by a techy friend. I'm currently running Advanced Systemcare Ultimate Beta, Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, and the Kaspersky TDSSKiller utility, TOGETHER. Successfully. All in happy compatibility. 
What I want to know is, will adding another firewall program result in some compatibility issues? I know that adding a new one would disable the built in one, or, I think it will. Has anyone here (ever) successfully used any outside firewall with Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, and Advanced Systemcare Ultimate beta or ASC with Antivirus 2013 (all together) before?
Not sure I want to press my luck... | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build by Jacob Boardman: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000150552708 OS Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit CPU Intel Core2 Duo @ 2.93GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Ultra Durable 3 EP43-UD3L Memory Crucial 2GB - 2 x 1GB 240, 128Mx64DDR2, PC2-6400 CL4 E Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays 2 x ASUS MS238H 23" Widescreen Slim LED Backlight HD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 dual monitors running on Display Fusion Keyboard Alienware Mouse Logitech Trackman PSU Rosewill RV2-700 Case Scout CM Storm Cooling air Hard Drives HITACHI Deskstar HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed Broadband 20-24mbps upload, 2-2.4mbps download Other Info Built by Jacob Boardman |
01 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I haven't heard much about Zone Alarm in years--certainly not on this forum.
I'd be suspicious of "Advanced Systemcare Ultimate", which sounds like a Swiss Army knife app of some kind that may do a lot of unnecessary or questionable stuff. Windows 7 doesn't need a lot of maintenance beyond the built in tools.
I use the Windows firewall, but there are other decent options. I'd just pick one firewall and be done with it.
I think your instincts about not pressing your luck are sound. As they say, "the enemy of a good plan is the search for a perfect plan". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit The Republic of Vermont, North America |
Is there a way to set the windows 7 firewall so that it is more secure, and interactive, or it always just a background thing? I'd like to be able to see the rules, and what it is doing or not doing.
Advanced Systemcare has successfully saved me from my own stupidity several times already, it has a fantastic ability to repair the registry (and they have a nice force uninstall that helped me dump a load of bloatware). I'm beta-ing their new version with antivirus included, and so far, it's pretty flawless, but then, I am not under attack, so it's hard to say 100% for sure. I have nothing but good things to say about them though. They are a newer company (IObit), and they are doing a good job so far. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build by Jacob Boardman: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000150552708 OS Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit CPU Intel Core2 Duo @ 2.93GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Ultra Durable 3 EP43-UD3L Memory Crucial 2GB - 2 x 1GB 240, 128Mx64DDR2, PC2-6400 CL4 E Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays 2 x ASUS MS238H 23" Widescreen Slim LED Backlight HD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 dual monitors running on Display Fusion Keyboard Alienware Mouse Logitech Trackman PSU Rosewill RV2-700 Case Scout CM Storm Cooling air Hard Drives HITACHI Deskstar HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed Broadband 20-24mbps upload, 2-2.4mbps download Other Info Built by Jacob Boardman |
01 Nov 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
You can look in control panel/Windows Firewall/advanced settings and fiddle around to your heart's content.
But the premise of Windows Firewall is to not require a lot of interaction and constantly ask for input of some type from the user. I'd guess 95% of users just turn it on and do nothing else.
There is something out there called "Tiny Firewall" that I think is a front end for Windows Firewall and it might be what you are looking for. It's not a separate firewall--just a way of controlling Windows Firewall. I've heard good things about it, but don't have the urge to dig into it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 Nov 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Buenos Aires |

Quote: Originally Posted by Phaewryn Is there a way to set the windows 7 firewall so that it is more secure, and interactive, or it always just a background thing? I'd like to be able to see the rules, and what it is doing or not doing. By default Windows Firewall has very conservative settings that render it quite insecure for its task, but the advanced control panel is the option you need to turn it more secure. The key feature to enable is blocking of outbound connections, which is off by default. The rules themselves I think is one of its coolest features with very detailed configuration is you want to spend a few minutes preparing it.
It's completely a background service. It's supposed to have incoming connections attempts notifications, but those rarely work really, and it completely lacks outgoing notifications so you have no way of knowing that, being one of the greatest flaws in it. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7-740QM Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 330GT Screen Resolution 1366x768 Cooling Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad Hard Drives Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD Internet Speed 3mbps ASDL Antivirus Kaspersky Antivirus 2013 Browser Opera 12.15 x64 |
02 Nov 2012
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#6 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Well if it is only a firewall you need the Comodo one is supposed to be about as good as they get. Mind you you seem to running a heck of a lot of apps there.
Personally I quite like the whole set of dice with Comodo Premium (free) or paid for - if I wasn't sold on Kaspersky I'd go the real deal with that. Firewall, Personal Firewall Software, Free Internet Firewall PC- COMODO | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
02 Nov 2012
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#7 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I haven't heard much about Zone Alarm in years--certainly not on this forum.
I'd be suspicious of "Advanced Systemcare Ultimate", which sounds like a Swiss Army knife app of some kind that may do a lot of unnecessary or questionable stuff. Windows 7 doesn't need a lot of maintenance beyond the built in tools.
I use the Windows firewall, but there are other decent options. I'd just pick one firewall and be done with it.
I think your instincts about not pressing your luck are sound. As they say, "the enemy of a good plan is the search for a perfect plan". I've been using Zone Alarm's free firewall for years, first on XP, and now on Windows 7 and have been happy with it. Many people don't like it because, until you get it "trained", it has a lot of popups, even more so than UAC. However, if one pays attention to the popup before blindly clicking it off, Zone Alarm gets trained pretty quickly. I find it easier to use than Windows 7's firewall. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE9 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
02 Nov 2012
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#8 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Hum sounds very much like the Comodo set up it takes a bit of "training" too.
But happy that you have got set up ok | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
03 Nov 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
I too have been a ZoneAlarm Pro user since Win 98, W2K, XP, and now Windows 7. I am considering dropping the paid subscription and this thread may help, Questions about Windows Firewall as I had questions similar to yours. I can't tell how many times if there were any that it saved me. I do know I've had maybe three virus/malware problems over the last 12 years. Don't know if ZA saved me some problems or not, you can't really know.
My opinion on ZA is it has changed so drastically I don't really care for the interface now and probably will go with Windows Firewall when my subscription expires this month.
It has played nice with Windows 7, it did have problems with a recent version of Avast! I ran that for years but had to uninstall it. Now I use MSE, Malwarebytes, Superantispyware, Spyware Blaster and ZA firewall. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self/Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU 3G AMD AthlonII 640x4 Propus Motherboard ASUSTeK M5A88-V EVO Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8G (2x4G) DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4250 (Onboard) Sound Card Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel (Onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Acer S200HLAbd Black 20" Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse MS Optical Wheel Mouse (USB) PSU RAIDMAX RX-380K 380W ATX12V Case Unknown Cooling CPU-stock cooling fan, 1 extra 80mm case fan Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III SSD (Win7)
Maxtor 6Y120P0 120G 7200 HDD Internet Speed ATT Uverse (internet only) 3.0M down/1.0M up |
03 Nov 2012
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#10 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Why don't you just try the Comodo firewall Steve? can only try it out it's free and well if you don't like it just uninstall it ain't going to cost you zip. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK Security software compatibility problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:07 AM. | |