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Windows 7: Security software compatibility

01 Nov 2012   #1
Phaewryn

Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit
 
 
Security software compatibility

Hello. I am just learning about security, and I've been told I should consider switching from the built in Windows 7 firewall to ZoneAlarm by a techy friend. I'm currently running Advanced Systemcare Ultimate Beta, Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, and the Kaspersky TDSSKiller utility, TOGETHER. Successfully. All in happy compatibility.

What I want to know is, will adding another firewall program result in some compatibility issues? I know that adding a new one would disable the built in one, or, I think it will. Has anyone here (ever) successfully used any outside firewall with Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, and Advanced Systemcare Ultimate beta or ASC with Antivirus 2013 (all together) before?

Not sure I want to press my luck...


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01 Nov 2012   #2
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

I haven't heard much about Zone Alarm in years--certainly not on this forum.

I'd be suspicious of "Advanced Systemcare Ultimate", which sounds like a Swiss Army knife app of some kind that may do a lot of unnecessary or questionable stuff. Windows 7 doesn't need a lot of maintenance beyond the built in tools.

I use the Windows firewall, but there are other decent options. I'd just pick one firewall and be done with it.

I think your instincts about not pressing your luck are sound. As they say, "the enemy of a good plan is the search for a perfect plan".
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01 Nov 2012   #3
Phaewryn

Windows Home Premium 7 32 bit
 
 

Is there a way to set the windows 7 firewall so that it is more secure, and interactive, or it always just a background thing? I'd like to be able to see the rules, and what it is doing or not doing.

Advanced Systemcare has successfully saved me from my own stupidity several times already, it has a fantastic ability to repair the registry (and they have a nice force uninstall that helped me dump a load of bloatware). I'm beta-ing their new version with antivirus included, and so far, it's pretty flawless, but then, I am not under attack, so it's hard to say 100% for sure. I have nothing but good things to say about them though. They are a newer company (IObit), and they are doing a good job so far.
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01 Nov 2012   #4
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

You can look in control panel/Windows Firewall/advanced settings and fiddle around to your heart's content.

But the premise of Windows Firewall is to not require a lot of interaction and constantly ask for input of some type from the user. I'd guess 95% of users just turn it on and do nothing else.

There is something out there called "Tiny Firewall" that I think is a front end for Windows Firewall and it might be what you are looking for. It's not a separate firewall--just a way of controlling Windows Firewall. I've heard good things about it, but don't have the urge to dig into it.
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01 Nov 2012   #5
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phaewryn View Post
Is there a way to set the windows 7 firewall so that it is more secure, and interactive, or it always just a background thing? I'd like to be able to see the rules, and what it is doing or not doing.
By default Windows Firewall has very conservative settings that render it quite insecure for its task, but the advanced control panel is the option you need to turn it more secure. The key feature to enable is blocking of outbound connections, which is off by default. The rules themselves I think is one of its coolest features with very detailed configuration is you want to spend a few minutes preparing it.

It's completely a background service. It's supposed to have incoming connections attempts notifications, but those rarely work really, and it completely lacks outgoing notifications so you have no way of knowing that, being one of the greatest flaws in it.
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02 Nov 2012   #6
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Main lap Asus ROG 7 Pro
 
 

Well if it is only a firewall you need the Comodo one is supposed to be about as good as they get. Mind you you seem to running a heck of a lot of apps there.

Personally I quite like the whole set of dice with Comodo Premium (free) or paid for - if I wasn't sold on Kaspersky I'd go the real deal with that.


Firewall, Personal Firewall Software, Free Internet Firewall PC- COMODO
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02 Nov 2012   #7
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
I haven't heard much about Zone Alarm in years--certainly not on this forum.

I'd be suspicious of "Advanced Systemcare Ultimate", which sounds like a Swiss Army knife app of some kind that may do a lot of unnecessary or questionable stuff. Windows 7 doesn't need a lot of maintenance beyond the built in tools.

I use the Windows firewall, but there are other decent options. I'd just pick one firewall and be done with it.

I think your instincts about not pressing your luck are sound. As they say, "the enemy of a good plan is the search for a perfect plan".
I've been using Zone Alarm's free firewall for years, first on XP, and now on Win7 and have been happy with it. Many people don't like it because, until you get it "trained", it has a lot of popups, even more so than UAC. However, if one pays attention to the popup before blindly clicking it off, Zone Alarm gets trained pretty quickly. I find it easier to use than Windows 7's firewall.
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02 Nov 2012   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Main lap Asus ROG 7 Pro
 
 

Hum sounds very much like the Comodo set up it takes a bit of "training" too.
But happy that you have got set up ok
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03 Nov 2012   #9
cmmtch

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

I too have been a ZoneAlarm Pro user since Win 98, W2K, XP, and now Win7. I am considering dropping the paid subscription and this thread may help, Questions about Windows Firewall as I had questions similar to yours. I can't tell how many times if there were any that it saved me. I do know I've had maybe three virus/malware problems over the last 12 years. Don't know if ZA saved me some problems or not, you can't really know.

My opinion on ZA is it has changed so drastically I don't really care for the interface now and probably will go with Windows Firewall when my subscription expires this month.

It has played nice with Win7, it did have problems with a recent version of Avast! I ran that for years but had to uninstall it. Now I use MSE, Malwarebytes, Superantispyware, Spyware Blaster and ZA firewall.
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03 Nov 2012   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Main lap Asus ROG 7 Pro
 
 

Why don't you just try the Comodo firewall Steve? can only try it out it's free and well if you don't like it just uninstall it ain't going to cost you zip.
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