| Windows 7: Is Windows Update important? |
08 Jan 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium (x64), SP1 |
Is Windows Update important? Windows Update has often put my system in some interesting situations, and I truly never want to update ever again. I recently reinstalled my system and the last time I did updates, my system prompted me to restart and was instead left hanging on the "shutting down" message for an hour, forcing me to shut it down improperly.
Truth is, I don't use any Microsoft apps except Windows Explorer.. and I only browse sites that I know are generally safe. Instead of using Internet Explorer I use Firefox with NoScript, Ghostery, WOT, Adblock Plus, and I've even updated the main plugins (Java, etc). I also have Malwarebytes and Norton as well.
I've also never understood the importance of driver updates either, my system seems to run the same with or without them. I'm even beginning to think that updating is causing my system to work harder in the background, rather than when it was in factory condition.. but is this true? So many questions... | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dv7-3188cl OS Windows 7 Home Premium (x64), SP1 CPU Intel Core i5, M 430 @ 2.27GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 365C 32.24 Memory 6GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce G105M Sound Card IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Monitor(s) Displays 1600x900 Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M305 PSU AC 100-240V~1.6A 50-60Hz, DC 19V 4.7A Case Notebook PC Hard Drives Hitachi 281GB Internet Speed 28.73Mb/s down, 4.68Mb/s up |
08 Jan 2013
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
You have some good anti-malware software and keep Java updated, yet you fail to see the significance of keeping the operating system updated........??????
Fact : your system is more secure and runs better if the OS is updated. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
08 Jan 2013
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#3 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Updates are there to correct bugs in the system (and sometimes to add minor functions) - and there are thousands of bugs. The industry standard is 1 bug per 1000 lines of code - and Windows 7 is appr. 55 Million lines of code. Make the computation.
It is perfectly alright if you want to live with the bugs and do not want to update. If you are happy with your system, why bother.
But when you come here because you encountered a problem, the first thing we are going to ask you is to update your system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
08 Jan 2013
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#4 | | |
IMHO--Double is correct, Golden and whs are 'lemmings' (no offense intended).
my system has NO updates installed and runs 'perfectly' and is 'extremely' secure. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number SALEON model 2.2b OS win7 ultimate 32bit CPU core2 Extreme QX6850-OCd to 3.15 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5G41-M LE Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVidia 8600 GT Monitor(s) Displays 23" acer PSU 500W Thermaltake Case mini tower Hard Drives one SATA 250GB partitioned equally in half
one SATA 160GB-internal storage |
08 Jan 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 IMHO--Double is correct, Golden and whs are 'lemmings' (no offense intended).
my system has NO updates installed and runs 'perfectly' and is 'extremely' secure. What? I really hope no OP needs to rely on you in any issue with Windows, seems it would be a sure way to disaster.
Kari (Sorry, can not say anything more, I would be banned from here due excessive use of foul language if I posted what I think about unintelligent, unproductive, unprofessional posts like the one I quoted.) | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Antivirus MSE, Windows Defender Browser Maxthon 3.5.2. Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
08 Jan 2013
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 IMHO--Double is correct, Golden and whs are 'lemmings' (no offense intended).
my system has NO updates installed and runs 'perfectly' and is 'extremely' secure. Well, I rather be a safe lemming than a dead lemming. I think you don't know what you are talking about. In 35 years of operating system development I have learned about the significance of updates. Even more so today because of the threats from the web. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
08 Jan 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
Agree with Golden, whs, and Kari.
If you come here for any help, we will ask you to install the updates, any knowledgeable person understands the necessity of keeping your OS up to date, secure and all bugs fixed.
Sorry tman69, but you are the 'lemming' (no offense intended). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Next Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
08 Jan 2013
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 IMHO--Double is correct, Golden and whs are 'lemmings' (no offense intended).
my system has NO updates installed and runs 'perfectly' and is 'extremely' secure. R-i-i-i-i-ght on there matey! Mine would be secure if I pulled the little blue cable from it, lol! Mark this one "troll", no offense meant. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Double Windows Update has often put my system in some interesting situations, and I truly never want to update ever again. I recently reinstalled my system and the last time I did updates, my system prompted me to restart and was instead left hanging on the "shutting down" message for an hour, forcing me to shut it down improperly.
Truth is, I don't use any Microsoft apps except Windows Explorer.. and I only browse sites that I know are generally safe. Instead of using Internet Explorer I use Firefox with NoScript, Ghostery, WOT, Adblock Plus, and I've even updated the main plugins (Java, etc). I also have Malwarebytes and Norton as well.
I've also never understood the importance of driver updates either, my system seems to run the same with or without them. I'm even beginning to think that updating is causing my system to work harder in the background, rather than when it was in factory condition.. but is this true? So many questions... Yeah, skip all future updates. we'll see you. Probably here: http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/ | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
08 Jan 2013
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#9 | | |
to all those who have posted about this topic...I am not 'the lemming' "Lemming--A term used to reference a person who...mindlessly follows the behaviors and actions of the masses."
I stick by my statement--Windows 7 32bit Ultimate--no updates installed at all--have NEVER crashed, nor had any BSODs, lockups or security problems. And I'm a firm believer in NOT updating drivers unless there is a problem...you are all entitled to believe what you will...doesn't change the possibility that you may be wrong.
sorry for opening such a can of worms... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number SALEON model 2.2b OS win7 ultimate 32bit CPU core2 Extreme QX6850-OCd to 3.15 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5G41-M LE Memory 4 GB Graphics Card NVidia 8600 GT Monitor(s) Displays 23" acer PSU 500W Thermaltake Case mini tower Hard Drives one SATA 250GB partitioned equally in half
one SATA 160GB-internal storage |
09 Jan 2013
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#10 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 cornwall UK |
tman69, how did you get away with posting 417 times without us realizing your lack of common sense | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett packard/p6512uk OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 CPU IIx4 amd athelon 635 processor Motherboard FOXCONN 2AA9 Memory 2x2gb Graphics Card ati radeon HD 5450 Sound Card (1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) AMD High Definition Monitor(s) Displays samsung lcd tv 32" Screen Resolution 1360x 768 Keyboard wireless hp Mouse wireless Hp,optical PSU ? Cooling air! Hard Drives (1) WDC WD10 01FAES-60Z2A0 SATA Disk Device (2) Maxtor OneTouch USB Device (3) ST310003 33AS USB Device (4) WD My Book 1111 USB Device Internet Speed 1.10mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser Firefox Is Windows Update important? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:14 PM. | |