| Windows 7: DSL issues- could malware be at fault? Maleware I can't detect? |
22 Mar 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
DSL issues- could malware be at fault? Maleware I can't detect? I've been having internet issues since roughly January, which started at night between midnight and 6 AM, but has become more frequent. I generally suspect an ISP issue, or maybe a modem going faulty(it's a Netopia modem my ISP gave me 6 years ago). I have a technician coming out Tuesday to check the modem and lines in the house. I've even wired a new phone jack into the house with no improvement. Now I'm prone to cutting out every 2-5 minutes.
BUT.... could this be a malware issue? Something all my scans have been unable to find? I run Microsoft Security Essentials, Windows Firewall, Spybot with full immunizations and Tea Timer and I also have Malwarebytes free version and a Hitman pro trial. I've run multiple scans by multiple programs and find nothing at all. Since I installed Spybot I've not noticed any actual infections and the immunizations seem to have helped. But then again... could this be something that's dodging every scan? It's possibly paranoia at work but who knows? I know some malware can be very nasty and I have to run multiple scanner programs because many things found by one program are ignored by another. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.6 GHz Memory 6 GB Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Gateway 3-button optical wheel mouse PSU 300 watt Cooling 80mm case fan, CPU fan Hard Drives 1 TB Western Digital |
22 Mar 2013
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#2 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Mate give these a burl http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/< download from bleeping computer http://www.superantispyware.com/ TDSSKiller Download < download the .exe sorry the main sever seems to be down but this site is ok | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
23 Mar 2013
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#3 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I don't know what ISP you have, but do ask if ANY changes have been made in your neighborhood "recently".
That is a question I didn't think to ask when I had a problem...
I had a similar issue a while ago where my internet to slow to a crawl every evening (and weekends).
I had the top of the line DSL package at that time, and it would slow to speeds at or below dialup.
Every ISP department/group/tech checked everything for MY DSL and said everything is fine with THEM - it's YOUR problem.
The ISP said the issue is MY HOME wiring, and even had technicians here seeing the problem, trying a new modem, re-wiring, ...
I said "How can this be?, it works fine until the evening... MY MOME wiring does not change at night!"
The tech in my home that saw the "evening slowdown" agreed with me...and told the "ISP Guru's" so...
FIBER OPTIC cable had been added to my neighborhood sometime before this saga started...
So I finally said - OK switch me to FIBER OPTIC and if the problem is not fixed I'll switch to another internet service provider.
Well, the tech that came to install FIBER OPTIC said to me "FIBER OPTIC does not work at YOUR HOUSE".
I asked why, and was told "Not sure now...we may have to dig up lines to find the problem!"
It turns out it was a wiring problem in a "neighborhood box" when FIBER OPTIC was added to the neighborhood...
The problem for me didn't start when FIBER OPTIC was added to my neighborhood.
It started when someone else in my neighborhood signed up for for FIBER OPTIC internet!
Sad but true story | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
23 Mar 2013
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
I actually have TDSSkiller on hand after I got hit with Alureon.A in 2011. I'm coming up clean as far as that program goes, I just ran a scan and found nothing but "Switchboard" which is apparently an Adobe file that the program tends to flag but everyone says is legit. I ran another full Spybot scan this morning and came up totally clean as well.
My ISP/phone company is upgrading this area to fiber optic this year, I think we have no choice in the matter but to get it. I'm wondering if their installation of the lines is interfering with the phones- I've heard line static as well, even during phone calls when the modem was shut off. I'll run maybe 1 or 2 more scans but I think I can rule out malware as the cause of my disconnections. I haven't had any Google redirect malware for a long time and Spyboyt's immunizations seem to really help- the last couple I got hit by were through Firefox browsing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.6 GHz Memory 6 GB Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Gateway 3-button optical wheel mouse PSU 300 watt Cooling 80mm case fan, CPU fan Hard Drives 1 TB Western Digital |
23 Mar 2013
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#5 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus I don't know what ISP you have, but do ask if ANY changes have been made in your neighborhood "recently".
That is a question I didn't think to ask when I had a problem...
I had a similar issue a while ago where my internet to slow to a crawl every evening (and weekends).
I had the top of the line DSL package at that time, and it would slow to speeds at or below dialup.
Every ISP department/group/tech checked everything for MY DSL and said everything is fine with THEM - it's YOUR problem.
The ISP said the issue is MY HOME wiring, and even had technicians here seeing the problem, trying a new modem, re-wiring, ...
I said "How can this be?, it works fine until the evening... MY MOME wiring does not change at night!"
The tech in my home that saw the "evening slowdown" agreed with me...and told the "ISP Guru's" so...
FIBER OPTIC cable had been added to my neighborhood sometime before this saga started...
So I finally said - OK switch me to FIBER OPTIC and if the problem is not fixed I'll switch to another internet service provider.
Well, the tech that came to install FIBER OPTIC said to me "FIBER OPTIC does not work at YOUR HOUSE".
I asked why, and was told "Not sure now...we may have to dig up lines to find the problem!"
It turns out it was a wiring problem in a "neighborhood box" when FIBER OPTIC was added to the neighborhood...
The problem for me didn't start when FIBER OPTIC was added to my neighborhood.
It started when someone else in my neighborhood signed up for for FIBER OPTIC internet!
Sad but true story  Sort of vaguely what I have to put up with David only mine cuts out altogether sometimes. Problem is I am out in the country and although they are rolling out what is laughing called the National Broadband Network (NBN) I can't imagine it will be in my lifetime that the copper will be gone and the local clapped out system replaced with anything as sophisticated as optic fibre - you are talking to someone who in some respects lives in a third world country. Ok if you in the major cities but out here the best alternative is satellite.
Next problem is that that means changing provider and the discounts I get from using all services with them evaporates. They don't miss a trick out here I can tell you in fact I think they invent them | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
24 Mar 2013
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#6 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I do see the pain you ICit2lol and Diosoth are going through.
I posted what I did because of my similar experience...and what i learned in the end.
While every ISP Corporate Department, Tech, etc. checked into my problem, they all said it's your problem.
Well, the "Fiber Optic Department/Tech" didn't check until they tried to install it in my home...
I was using twisted pair copper wire for DSL and Landline phone (for many years)...no need for the Fiber Optic folks to test anything...RIGHT!!!
It ended up when one particular home signed up for their Fiber Optic access, it caused ME a problem.
Some "Fiber Optic connection(s)" were installed incorrectly in a neighborhood box...
A painful experience for me I'd rather forget, but this thread reminded me of it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
24 Mar 2013
|
#7 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Diosoth I actually have TDSSkiller on hand... Just to be clear, you should download that tool just before you use it. Don't use an old copy.
Not that you said that you used an old copy - but I could not be sure given the wording I quoted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Employer provided Dell E6430 OS W7 Pro SP1 64bit CPU i5 3320M @ 2.6GHz Motherboard 0CPWYR Memory 4GB Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 4000 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 119GB LITEONIT SSD Antivirus Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection Browser Firefox, IE9 & IE8 via VM |
24 Mar 2013
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
TDSSkiller updates itself if it detects it's old.
I downloaded and ran ESET Online(full scan, took 2 hours) and Super Anti Spyware(quick scan and critical point scan) and found nothing. I ran Malwarebytes and TDSSkiller again, nothing. At this point I'm saying with 99% certainty I'm clean and the DSL issues are phone line related. If between MSE, TDSSkiller, MBAM, Hitman Pro, Spyboy, ESET and SAS I can't find anything I doubt anything is getting undetected. Anything that could dodge all 7 of those would probably be more malicious than random DSL dropping. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.6 GHz Memory 6 GB Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Gateway 3-button optical wheel mouse PSU 300 watt Cooling 80mm case fan, CPU fan Hard Drives 1 TB Western Digital DSL issues- could malware be at fault? Maleware I can't detect? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 PM. | |