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Windows 7: Anti Virus protection (MSE)


09 Oct 2013   #11
derekimo

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Windows 7 Pro 64 SP1
 
 

That is the same article that keeps getting removed because it has no valid source.


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09 Oct 2013   #12
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

You are absolutely correct derekimo.
It just sends you from editorial to editorial to editorial but nothing from Microsoft. All they do is state so and so said so and so but no proof that so and so said anything.
It is nothing but hearsay that some how some members want to spread around.
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09 Oct 2013   #13
madcratebuilder

Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
In an interview with Dennis Protection Labs, Holly Stewart, the senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, said that Microsoft Security Essentials was just a “baseline” that’s designed to “always be on the bottom” of antivirus tests. She said Microsoft sees MSE as a first layer of protection and advises Windows users to use a third-party antivirus instead.
According to Holly Stewart, Microsoft “had an epiphany a few years ago, back in 2011, where we realised we had a greater calling and that was to protect all Microsoft customers.” She says that Microsoft passes its information on to other antivirus makers and helps them make their products better. “We used to have part of our time directed towards predicting test results,” but these people have now been directed to focus on emerging threats and share that information with other antivirus companies.
She went on: “We’re providing all of that data and information to our partners so they can do at least as well as we are. The natural progression is that we will always be on the bottom of these tests. And honestly, if we are doing our job correctly, that’s what will happen.”
Nevertheless, she argues that “baseline does not equal bad” and says they provide a high-quality antivirus. But Microsoft themselves are recommending users not use MSE, so it’s hard to take that seriously.
Why are you perpetuating this bogus rumor? I know you don't like MSE, but use substantiated source material to bash it.

About half the users here use MSE with MBAM in realtime, and SASW as a backup. When I started using 7 I started with MSE, I have not had any kind a virus problem. I do get malware and spyware but MSE is not designed for those. That's why most use MBAM and SASW.
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09 Oct 2013   #14
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madcratebuilder View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
In an interview with Dennis Protection Labs, Holly Stewart, the senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, said that Microsoft Security Essentials was just a “baseline” that’s designed to “always be on the bottom” of antivirus tests. She said Microsoft sees MSE as a first layer of protection and advises Windows users to use a third-party antivirus instead.
According to Holly Stewart, Microsoft “had an epiphany a few years ago, back in 2011, where we realised we had a greater calling and that was to protect all Microsoft customers.” She says that Microsoft passes its information on to other antivirus makers and helps them make their products better. “We used to have part of our time directed towards predicting test results,” but these people have now been directed to focus on emerging threats and share that information with other antivirus companies.
She went on: “We’re providing all of that data and information to our partners so they can do at least as well as we are. The natural progression is that we will always be on the bottom of these tests. And honestly, if we are doing our job correctly, that’s what will happen.”
Nevertheless, she argues that “baseline does not equal bad” and says they provide a high-quality antivirus. But Microsoft themselves are recommending users not use MSE, so it’s hard to take that seriously.
Why are you perpetuating this bogus rumor? I know you don't like MSE, but use substantiated source material to bash it.

About half the users here use MSE with MBAM in realtime, and SASW as a backup. When I started using 7 I started with MSE, I have not had any kind a virus problem. I do get malware and spyware but MSE is not designed for those. That's why most use MBAM and SASW.
Because I don't feel it's bogus. If it is, where is M$'s rebuttal? And my dislike of MSE is based on personal experience and multiple independent AV reviews.
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09 Oct 2013   #15
cyrilhubert

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Sometimes, I personally feel that MS is using all the users as testbed for their product(s),for what other purpose(s)I don't know.Why MS gives a false impression that Win7 or other versions of OS platform are protected when a free MSE failed to do its job?
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10 Oct 2013   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Microsoft monitors those of us that allow it so they have a first hand look at what is and is not. Yes that could be called a testbed but it allows them to see what works and doesn't work for their customers.
Microsoft has many programs that work with their customers to try and improve there products. Personally I don't see a problem with that.
Many companies use testbeds; it called Beta.

Here is a example that one can choose when using Microsoft Security Essentials. ( MAPS)

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10 Oct 2013   #17
edee

Windows 8 Pro / Windows 7 Home Premium x64 dual boot
 
 

Most if not all independent antivirus testing companies list MSE as "baseline".

I too have seen the article posted in more than one place in the past couple of weeks, Softpedia comes to mind where I read it most recently.

IMO, I want antivirus software that is made by a company that does nothing but antivirus software, this way you know everything they have goes into that software. I don't trust antivirus software made by companies that dabble a little in this and that ..... even if it is Microsoft.

Personally I am not a real big fan of MSE, never have been, therefore I take the article for what it says, even if there is no source and being that Microsoft over the past couple of weeks has not come out to rebut it only confirms it more for me.

I am not going to slam the product because to me it's good for anyone who purchases a new computer because they will be somewhat protected when they first plug it in and start surfing, at least until they install a better product.

I too have had more than one bad experience while using MSE that I won't go into here but has brought me to my own conclusions about MSE. It's just very basic antivirus, it will not catch a lot of the stuff the other free antivirus vendors such as Avast! will, there are also a lot of stuff that even if it does catch it, it cannot remove, whereas you will have to resort to 3rd party removal tools to eradicate the infection.

If your just a basic surfer and do not download a lot of files and are comfortable with MSE, more power to you. If you download a lot of files, torrents and visit "seedy" parts of the web I would highly recommend using a better antivirus product.
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10 Oct 2013   #18
ThrashZone

Win-7 Home Prem 64-bit 7601 Free SP1
 
 

As long as you don't forget MSE was designed around Internet explorer,
Which has it's own Security protocols.
Every Security suite is Beta because they are constantly evolving via updates daily-hourly.... which ever the case maybe.
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11 Oct 2013   #19
logicearth

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

Btw here you go: Our commitment to Microsoft antimalware - Microsoft Malware Protection Center - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

It was just some foolish reporter taking an interview and pulling out strings of text minus any form of context.
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11 Oct 2013   #20
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks. That's good to know.
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