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Windows 7: IE Hacker Problem

01 May 2014   #31
derekimo

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It may be semantics in the broader scope of things, but it does need to be clarified quite often.

Not really sure why you feel a program that calls itself Anti-Malware, is an Anti-Virus.

They are separate tools doing things a bit differently.

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Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not meant to be a replacement for antivirus software. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a complementary but essential program which detects and removes zero-day malware and "Malware in the Wild". This includes malicious programs and files, such as virus droppers, worms, trojans, rootkits, dialers, spyware, and rogue applications that many antivirus programs do not detect or cannot fully remove. That being said, there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors. It is important to note that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware works well and should run alongside antivirus software without conflicts. In some rare instances, exclusions may need to be set for your specific antivirus product to achieve the best possible system performance.
https://helpdesk.malwarebytes.org/en...irus-software-


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01 May 2014   #32
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pappi View Post
I tried the Pro version with real time protection on trial basis and found it more effective in picking up and blocking threats/viruses ahead of MSE. I still do not know why it is not considered an AV.

On the other hand, sometimes on scheduled scan, MSE detects and quarantines malwares, including viruses which its real time protection failed to detect and block.

Somebody of more advance PC skill...please explain why MBAM is not considered an AV.
The folks at Malwarebytes opt to call their product something other than an AV app. They have stated that they remove files from the list of items being watched for once those files are no longer in the wild. They say that your AV tool should handle detecting/cleaning older bad files. Also, it is not a good idea to have multiple apps that use low level filters that watch for file changes (and then act on those changes). You can install all of the on demand scanners that you wish.

Getting everyone to agree on what constitutes an AV app is almost as hard as getting everyone to agree on what files should be flagged. Part of this discussion comes down to terminology: http://www.sevenforums.com/system-se...ml#post2764109
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01 May 2014   #33
derekimo

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Here's a simple analogy,

Cars and Trucks are both Vehicles, if you want someone to know what you are driving, you can call it a vehicle and be correct.

If you want them know what your vehicle looks like, it helps to be more specific.

None of this may be the answer you are looking for, it just keeps confusion down if everyone is on the same page when it comes to the terms.
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01 May 2014   #34
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
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...but I still do not know what the senior, guru and VIP members are actually doing in the wake of this red alert from Homeland Security. Anything different? Or business as usual?
I doubt this is flaw is big enough to warrant an out of band patch. The chances of you encountering it are small.

Unregister the VGX.DLL that has the flaw and await a patch.

Microsoft acknowledges ?in the wild? Internet Explorer zero-day | Naked Security
MS has released an out of band patch:
Out-of-Band Release to Address Microsoft Security Advisory 2963983
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01 May 2014   #35
derekimo

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pappi View Post
...but I still do not know what the senior, guru and VIP members are actually doing in the wake of this red alert from Homeland Security. Anything different? Or business as usual?
I doubt this is flaw is big enough to warrant an out of band patch. The chances of you encountering it are small.

Unregister the VGX.DLL that has the flaw and await a patch.

Microsoft acknowledges ?in the wild? Internet Explorer zero-day | Naked Security
MS has released an out of band patch:
Out-of-Band Release to Address Microsoft Security Advisory 2963983
I just got that too, Thanks.
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01 May 2014   #36
pappi

 

Me too. But this update has nothing to do with the Hacker's red alert, no? I thought this update is to prevent crashing caused by 2929437 update of April 8th.
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01 May 2014   #37
pappi

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Here's a simple analogy,

Cars and Trucks are both Vehicles, if you want someone to know what you are driving, you can call it a vehicle and be correct.

If you want them know what your vehicle looks like, it helps to be more specific.

None of this may be the answer you are looking for, it just keeps confusion down if everyone is on the same page when it comes to the terms.
I do not get it with this analogy. The way I look at it, all viruses, bugs, adware, worms, etc. are malware. So if virus is a malware, by definition , a product named anti-malware is by nomenclature an anti-virus.
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01 May 2014   #38
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pappi View Post
Me too. But this update has nothing to do with the Hacker's red alert, no? I thought this update is to prevent crashing caused by 2929437 update of April 8th.
No, this is a security update.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pappi View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
Here's a simple analogy,

Cars and Trucks are both Vehicles, if you want someone to know what you are driving, you can call it a vehicle and be correct.

If you want them know what your vehicle looks like, it helps to be more specific.

None of this may be the answer you are looking for, it just keeps confusion down if everyone is on the same page when it comes to the terms.
I do not get it with this analogy. The way I look at it, all viruses, bugs, adware, worms, etc. are malware. So if virus is a malware, by definition , a product named anti-malware is by nomenclature an anti-virus.
Call it what ever you want, I'm just trying to point out that if you want someone to know what you are talking about it helps to use the widely accepted term.
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01 May 2014   #39
pappi

 

Maybe if I pose the question differently: If MBAM Pro (not the free version) is all I have against infection, am I considered vulnerable and therefore I need to install another product that everybody calls AV(like Norton)?

If the answer is yes, my next question...conceding that MBAM is NOT an AV, is: what does an AV(like Norton) do that MBAM Pro does not do? And I am not being obstinate. I really do not know. I need an education in plain English....from those who have higher computing skills.
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01 May 2014   #40
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pappi View Post
Maybe if I pose the question differently: If MBAM Pro (not the free version) is all I have against infection, am I considered vulnerable and therefore I need to install another product that everybody calls AV(like Norton)?

If the answer is yes, my next question...conceding that MBAM is NOT an AV, is: what does an AV(like Norton) do that MBAM Pro does not do? And I am not being obstinate. I really do not know. I need an education in plain English....from those who have higher computing skills.
From my post #31 above,

Quote:
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not meant to be a replacement for antivirus software.

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a complementary but essential program which detects and removes zero-day malware and "Malware in the Wild".

This includes malicious programs and files, such as virus droppers, worms, trojans, rootkits, dialers, spyware, and rogue applications that many antivirus programs do not detect or cannot fully remove.

That being said, there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors.

It is important to note that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware works well and should run alongside antivirus software without conflicts.

In some rare instances, exclusions may need to be set for your specific antivirus product to achieve the best possible system performance.
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