Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Is Defender now full-featured AV as in Win8?

21 Jul 2014   #1
gregrocker

 
Is Defender now full-featured AV as in Win8?

I understand MSE was renamed Defender and built into Win8 as a full-featured AV (actually MSE).

But is the Defender which runs in the background on Win7 the same, using the same definitions, or not?

The reason I'm asking is I'm upgrading a 1gb Core2 Duo for a friend who doesn't want to buy any more RAM and I think it can be made fast by defaulting only to Defender since MSE is spiking the RAM. I would give him the necessary warnings and have several scanners on his desktop, but am still not sure.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
21 Jul 2014   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I would not recommend to rely on Defender alone. It is mostly geared to protect against spyware but Defender is not a full AV program. MSE is a better choice but if you want a small footprint, I would use Norton Internet Security.

PS: I would not venture to install Windows 7 on a duo core 1GB machine. That is going to run like molasses.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #3
gregrocker

 

So the Win7 Defender is not the full-featured, actually-MSE that is built into Windows 8 and runs by default?

This would mean it uses different definitions. Do we know this for sure?

Thanks!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

21 Jul 2014   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Defender in 8.1 is not the same as Defender in 7. In 8.1 it is an upgraded MSE. But I am not sure what the difference of the definition files is. Even if they were the same, the usage may be different.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #5
maxie

windows 7 home 64bit
 
 

The Definitions in Windows 8 are 1.179.644.0 .. I do not have a Windows 7 Laptop with me to check if they are the same ..
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #6
Jonguy30

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

My MSE (Win 7) is showing 1.179.660.0 so they are not the same.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #7
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Windows defender in xp through 7 ONLY looks for spyware and PUPS. Not viruses.

Only MSE is a antivirus. MSE was then merged into windows defender in windows 8 and higher. Windows defender in windows 8 is mse rebranded to windows defender.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Do not depend on Windows Defender in Windows 7.
It can not do the job.
That is why after installing MSE on Windows 7 it will turn off Defender and use MSE.

Why the dorks at Microsoft had to confuse thing by using the same name (Defender) in W7 and W8 when they are not the same program bewilders me.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #9
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Ya a common joke in the malware community is if windows defender finds threats on there machine, there machine is really really bad. Better just wipe.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 Jul 2014   #10
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

This from Wikipedia:

Quote:
Windows Defender, formerly known as Microsoft AntiSpyware, is a software product that helps combat malware. Windows Defender was initially an antispyware program; it is included with Windows Vista and Windows 7 and is available as a free download for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. In Windows 8, however, it is upgraded to an antivirus program.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Is Defender now full-featured AV as in Win8?




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Results of Windows Defender Offline Full Scan
Results of the Windows Defender Offline Full Scan: Trojan:Win32/Dynamer!dtc Severe Active Remove Exploit:Java/CVE-2012-1723.AQT Severe Active Remove Trojan:Win32/Alureon Severe Active Remove Providing the above per gregrocker in the...
System Security
Win7 won't start after full installation (followed by Win8 install)
So I tried installing Windows 8 on my Novatech Laptop, having windows 7 installed on it previously. I deleted the 7 partition and installed 8. It booted, but hung right after booting into hdd. Then I decided I don't need 8 and tried to come back to 7. There where a couple of problems with creating...
Installation & Setup
Installed Ubuntu,Win8. Now if I select Win8 in Grub it won't start.
Can someone please help me. I installed Windows 8. Then created a new partition and installed Ubuntu on it. But now if I want to select Windows 8 in Grub, it waits a couple of seconds and then restarts Grub. :( Image: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0BEPJLJ19P2NlFrTnZORlE3T0U Has anyone an...
Installation & Setup
Free full featured office suite - SoftMaker Office 2008
SoftMaker Office is a complete and limited - featured office suite that comes with a word processor, a spreadsheet, and a presentation-graphics program. Compatible with many Microsoft Word and Excel formats. (pre Office 2010), more like office 2003. ...
Software
A full-featured Windows 7 Aero to Starter and Windows 7 Home Basic
A full-featured Windows 7 Aero to Starter and Windows 7 Home Basic Winreview.ru - Microsoft Windows...
Customization
We are featured in a Youtube video
Sorry not sure where to put this, but this made me write a topic... YouTube - 5 Tips Before Upgrading to Windows 7 at about 2:32 (girl is pretty cute too but that's a different topic altogether) :D
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:53.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App