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Windows 7: EMSISOFT AV with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PC -- Experiences?

29 Sep 2014   #1
Louisaz

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 
EMSISOFT AV with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PC -- Experiences?

I am currently using Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) and MalwareBytes AntiMalware (MBAM) Premium and MalwareBytes AntiExploit (MBAE) on my Win 7 Pro 74-bit PC (Intel i5), without any issues. All three programs operate full-time; they are not "on-demand" scanners. They all uses heuristic analysis.

After reading several AV tests, it appears that I can "up my game" with respect to detection rates if I use something other than MSE. I've recently tried MBAM and MBAE with Avast! and AVG, with mixed results. I have reverted back to MSE -- for the time being.

I would like to try another highly-regarded AV program -- EMSISOFT. I have had several recent email exchanges with their tech department and am very impressed with their professionalism. However, EMSISOFT states unequivocally that their AV should NOT be used with any other AV or AM program. I am hesitant to ditch MBAM Premium (paid for) which I've found to be excellent. On the MalwareBytes forum, one user has had success using MBAM and MBAE with EMSISOFT.

I'd appreciate any comments from users of EMSISOFT on Win 7 PCs.

Thanks,

Louis


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30 Sep 2014   #2
Louisaz

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Well...based on the tremendous response to my initial RFI, I installed Emsisoft Antimalware (EAM). I think it's OUTSTANDING. It is currently running happily (and concurrently) with Malwarebytes Antimalware Premium and Malwarebytes AntiExploit.

IMHO, EAM is superior to MSE, AVG, Avast!, and Bitdefender -- which I have recently tried. I'd used MSE for years, but it's now long of tooth and ... retired.

I did turn off Win 7 Pro x64 "Windows Defender" so that would not conflict with my other real-time heuristic protection.

Louis
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01 Oct 2014   #3
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

Sorry that you didn't get any feedback here, but great that you've found a new AV that you're happy with

Next time you could take a look at F-Secure too. They use BitDefender engine + their own ones and have a HIPS that I prefer (Host-based intrusion prevention system called "DeepGuard")
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01 Oct 2014   #4
Louisaz

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Thanks, Tookeri. I will take a look at F-Secure Internet Security. I note that you, too, use MBAM. Do you use Premium?
I have also have Sandboxie, but only use that if I am really concerned about the legitimacy of a download.

Best,

Louis
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01 Oct 2014   #5
maxie

windows 7 home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
Sorry that you didn't get any feedback here, but great that you've found a new AV that you're happy with

Next time you could take a look at F-Secure too. They use BitDefender engine + their own ones and have a HIPS that I prefer (Host-based intrusion prevention system called "DeepGuard")

Started using that Software over five months ago ... Got the Internet Security for all Devices package Free from my ISP for one year ..

So far seems a really good package ...
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01 Oct 2014   #6
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Louisaz View Post
Thanks, Tookeri. I will take a look at F-Secure Internet Security. I note that you, too, use MBAM. Do you use Premium?
I have also have Sandboxie, but only use that if I am really concerned about the legitimacy of a download.

Best,

Louis
Yes premium with real-time + IP blocking. It's great in detecting PUP's and zero-hour malware.
I use Sandboxie as a proactive defense simply because you cannot know what web sites are malicious or contains malicious ads for example. Web sites do also get hacked so I basically don't trust any site.
Further in Sandboxie I've also limited internet access to my browsers only, and I've added blocked read access for my private folders etc. So I feel very secure, but I'm so cautious I probably could be without an AV But I know how nasty some malware can be so I like to be well prepared with several security layers, although the most important layer I believe is the user himself.
I mostly use Firefox with Ghostery and WOT(Web Of Trust) for privacy and avoiding ads and questionable web sites. Well, that's a summary of how I manage to stay uninfected year after year. I also have Microsoft's anti-exploit tool EMET but that's not for everyone as it sometimes can be difficult to configure for all programs to be fully compatible with it.

To easily check downloads with multiple AV's, take a look at my recent Tutorial:
VirusTotal + HerdProtect - Check Files with Simultaneously
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tookeri View Post
Sorry that you didn't get any feedback here, but great that you've found a new AV that you're happy with

Next time you could take a look at F-Secure too. They use BitDefender engine + their own ones and have a HIPS that I prefer (Host-based intrusion prevention system called "DeepGuard")

Started using that Software over five months ago ... Got the Internet Security for all Devices package Free from my ISP for one year ..

So far seems a really good package ...
Yes you mean SAFE, a great deal! I think I know what ISP you're talking about too as I follow everything F-Secure does

If you're interested to know more about F-Secure's HIPS(Application Monitor) here's the technical whitepaper: http://www.f-secure.com/documents/99...whitepaper.pdf
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01 Oct 2014   #7
maxie

windows 7 home 64bit
 
 

Many thanks for the Link
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01 Oct 2014   #8
Louisaz

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

This is my defensive array against Evil-doers: I use Firefox or Pale Moon with Ghostery and AdBlock Plus. My primary real-time AV-AM is (now) Emsisoft Antimalware (EAM). I've dumped MSE. My second line of real-time defense is Malwarebytes AntiMalware (MBAM) Premium and Malwarebytes AntiExploit (MBAE). I am also using SpywareBlaster, which I may drop in the near future. It does have 17,000 + sites listed, but it updates at a snail's pace.

EAM and MBAM Premium both scan on a regular basis. For a third opinion, I will scan once per week or so with SuperAntiSpyware (free) and Norton Power Eraser (NPE) for an infrequent really deep scan. Before turning off my PC in the evening, I'll run CCleaner (including the registry cleaner).

I have a 1TB external HD that I use for backup and system image storage. I only backup after I've scanned my primary HD. I never use incremental backups as that process may transfer an infected file or program to my external HD. I keep my external HD turned off unless I'm backing up. Yes, I have a recovery DVD and my PC attempts to boot from the DVD drive first -- just in case. I feel secure, but know that I cannot cover all possible contingencies. That's my protocol...FWIW.

Have I missed anything?

Louis
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01 Oct 2014   #9
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

Louis, that's a great setup, and backup strategy, and also includes an anti-exploit tool! I don't think you've missed something.

I also do full scans before creating a new image backup. Never do full scans at other times as I think real-time scans are enough. I backup to a NAS + external HD and have them off/unconnected after, so we have kind of similar setups

NPE can be a bit aggressive but I use it too sometimes, for that reason. I normally use HitmanPro by SurfRight as extra scanner. It's free but not for cleaning (except for a trial period when/if it detects something)

I use Windows own backup tool but I recently starting using Macrium too. In case one should fail I then have a backup of the backup so to speak. But to be bulletproof I probably should store these backups on separate external HDs too. And I always create duplicate rescue CD's and test them.

You have a great protection! If you want you can check out the add-on WOT. It's different from others because it's based on reputations. It warns you of sites other users think are questionable and not only malicious: https://www.mywot.com/

The only other thing I can think of is checking downloaded files with multi-engine AV tools. The link to the Tutorial in my previous post is a very simple way of checking files both on VirusTotal(50+ AV's) and HerdProtect(68 AV's). I use it in case my AV would miss something, then hopefully other AV's can detect it. If the file never has been scanned before with these engines, or if you want to rescan a file, you can just go to virustotal.com and upload it.
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01 Oct 2014   #10
Louisaz

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Tookeri,

Thanks for the feedback. I've added WOT to my array and will give it a try. Conceptually, it makes sense.

Regarding multi-engine AV tools, that is precisely why I've moved to Emsisoft -- it uses Bitdefenders for AV and its own for malware.

I need to do more experimentation with Windows 7 System Imaging and those from 3rd parties -- like Macrium. With a 1TB external HD, I should be able to save multiple system images -- created when I make any significant changes to my PC -- in addition to my data backup. FYI, I use Microsoft Synctoy 2.1 (x64) for routine backups, which I think is exceptional.

Best,

Louis
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