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11-03-2009
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The caveat is "You know what you're doing...".. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion 601 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel P4 3.4Ghz Dual Processor Motherboard Austek Memory 2GB Graphics Card Integrated 82915G Chipset 128MB Sound Card Intel HD integtrated Monitor(s) Displays HP2009m 20' HD Wide Screen Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives WD 250GB WD 500GB External Internet Speed 30mb |
11-03-2009
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exactly, i know what im doing and i would just like if the OS didnt restrict me in anything. thts why im asking this question: Quote: Does this this new security replace security features in XP or add on top of them? In other words, if I disable UAC and get everything to run as admin am I losing any security relative to the security within XP? If not then I dont see the big deal in disabling it, I never got any viruses on XP so if I have the same habits and the same security I should be fine on 7 as well, correct? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio 1737 OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Motherboard NA Memory 4GB Graphics Card Integrated Graphics Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays 2 PSU NA Case NA Cooling Air Hard Drives 320GB |
11-03-2009
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If you believe that the scum that write virri haven't advanced beyond windows xp security models, then by all means, disable all available security, uninstall your antivirus program, and bookmark this site... we'll be here to help you clean your machine when it gets infected like a cheap hooker.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion 601 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel P4 3.4Ghz Dual Processor Motherboard Austek Memory 2GB Graphics Card Integrated 82915G Chipset 128MB Sound Card Intel HD integtrated Monitor(s) Displays HP2009m 20' HD Wide Screen Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives WD 250GB WD 500GB External Internet Speed 30mb |
11-03-2009
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Disabling security isnt a good idea you know that. If it is interfering with your ability to do something it isnt configured correctly. While that machine doesnt have internet connectivity you obviously downloaded and installed win 7 and drivers from the internet and sneaker neted it to that machine. It could even be infected now. No matter how good you are, you cant detect virii without an app.
Know what they call 10,000 ppl with your views? Botnet
Do use all a favor leave it on and configure it so it doesnt bother you.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell inspiron core duo OS WDP ONLY CPU 2@2.6 Motherboard Dell/ Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card intel 945 Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays svga Screen Resolution 1440x960 Keyboard yep Mouse nope PSU 40W Case cheap plastic Cooling none Hard Drives 1-1tb
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11-03-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg Run as administrator privileged account instead of standard user account.
Control panel | user accounts | change your account type
Less secure this way. Basically everyone runs this way though. Uhhh....no....not everybody runs this way. I've been able to perfectly perform my job as a systems admin with my Vista laptop without being an admin or disabling UAC. And I haven't had 1 need to consider doing this at home either.
I often wonder what it is, that you "computer enthusiasts" do, which require turning off these security measures simply because you know better. Somehow the rest of us IT Professional types and so forth manage to get by just fine by leaving them on. That's got to make you wonder. 
Quote: Originally Posted by esteban After I turned off UAC, I haven't received any interruptions from it. For those who "care about their security," disabling UAC isn't a big deal if you know what you're doing. Of course, the point of UAC isn't so much to inform you, the user, when you are doing something that requires admin privileges...you obviously know about it since you started it.
The point is when an application in the background tries to do something which requires admin rights. In your case, you simply have elected to let those applications do whatever it is they want to do. And you won't know any better since you won't be notified about it.
Regardless of how competent you are as a user on your own computer, you aren't going to know with 100% confidence EXACTLY what every application you have installed is trying to do. And with so many free apps today which come bundled with other garbage and people pirating and torrenting commercial software...I have even less faith that I have a great handle on what is going on. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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11-03-2009
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My reasoning seems solid to me. I recently upgraded to windows 7 from XP. Im asking if the built in security is the same as XP and then some or completely different. Like i said, because i dont go on the internet much with my computer (mostly mobile browsing) and when i do i pretty much only use sites that i trust, dont click on links, etc i have never gotten a virus on XP so it stands to reason that if the same amount of security is present in 7 (what im trying to accomplish here) then i also will not get any viruses. I dont need all the run as admin and UAC stuff, i got along in XP just fine without it and in my opinion, dont need it. Plus i do have an up to date antivirus program installed. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio 1737 OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Motherboard NA Memory 4GB Graphics Card Integrated Graphics Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays 2 PSU NA Case NA Cooling Air Hard Drives 320GB |
11-03-2009
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Just to clarify, i am fine with the UAC telling me what programs are doing, i just dont want to have to run as admin when i AM an admin just to allow the program to access special folders like program files. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio 1737 OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Motherboard NA Memory 4GB Graphics Card Integrated Graphics Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays 2 PSU NA Case NA Cooling Air Hard Drives 320GB |
11-03-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Carey My reasoning seems solid to me. I recently upgraded to windows 7 from XP. Im asking if the built in security is the same as XP and then some or completely different. Like i said, because i dont go on the internet much with my computer (mostly mobile browsing) and when i do i pretty much only use sites that i trust, dont click on links, etc i have never gotten a virus on XP so it stands to reason that if the same amount of security is present in 7 (what im trying to accomplish here) then i also will not get any viruses. I dont need all the run as admin and UAC stuff, i got along in XP just fine without it and in my opinion, dont need it. Plus i do have an up to date antivirus program installed. Carey .. dont join a debate club, with logic like ^ you will get your lunch handed to you on a plate... Your analogy is like somone saying "ive never been hit by a car crossing this street, so why should I be bothered to look both ways" ... I think if you take the time to read the replies to your question, the answer should fairly smack you upside your head... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion 601 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel P4 3.4Ghz Dual Processor Motherboard Austek Memory 2GB Graphics Card Integrated 82915G Chipset 128MB Sound Card Intel HD integtrated Monitor(s) Displays HP2009m 20' HD Wide Screen Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives WD 250GB WD 500GB External Internet Speed 30mb |
11-03-2009
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 |
I'm not going to tell you what to do, but why upgrade from XP to 7 if you want to make it more like XP? Also even the most knowledgeable users get viruses/Trojans/worms. Its best to always have some form of anti-virus. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom | Whitebox OS Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 CPU Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1) Memory 2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz Graphics Card EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition Sound Card Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays 21" VIZIO TV Screen Resolution 1680x1050 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless S520 Mouse Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse PSU Corsair 750W Case NZXT Nemesis Elite Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ Hard Drives Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
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11-03-2009
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If you turn all of the stuff off...it's more or less going to be pretty much like XP. Which by today's standards, is a pretty insecure OS. In fact, if you do a quick bit of reading, if you install a Windows XP box and put it on the Internet with no patches, it's usually compromised in just a matter of minutes.
While I understand what you are trying to accomplish and understand that you feel you have been relatively safe with Windows XP...I still have to ask if these measures really are that obtrusive and cause you that much hassle. I mean UAC prompts a few times when you are setting up your box and from than on out, it's pretty darn quiet.
If you have an up to date antivirus, then your machine must be on the Internet. These things need to be updated every few days.
And what happens if a site you trust is compromised. Ever hear of a commercial site being hijacked and then people who visit the site are compromised. Just because Google has always been a trusted site in the past, is no guarantee that they won't be hacked tomorrow.
As far as programs being able to write to C:\Program Files....I'd really be wondering what it is they are doing that would require that. Windows historically has had quite a number of vulnerabilities and compromises and they have put measures and safeguards into place to protect their OS and their users. I've actually switched applications because of shady practices and questionable actions. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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