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Windows 7: Mind the PUP: Top download portals to avoid

15 Mar 2015   #11
Laith

Windows 10 Professional x64
 
 

I really hate PuPs and Unchecky is a great program to have. When im installing anything i carefully read what they are actually installing, most of my friends just click continue all the time and get bloatware/pups and all that crappy stuff so i have to come over and fix that. As Lady Fitzgerald said, it is extermely good to have MBAM PRO with Unchecky to avoid PuPs as much as possible.

My personal top 7 PuPs are:

1. OpenCandy
2. Optimizer Pro
3. RegClean Pro
4. IOBit programs (advanced system care etc)
5. Mobogenie
6. HotSpotShield
7. YAC (Techinally not a PuP but a bunch of ads is thrown in there.


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16 Mar 2015   #12
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
NEVER, EVER download software from third party sites. The ONLY safe place to get new programs is the original author website.

Downloading anything from anywhere else but its original site is simply asking for trouble. There is no choice to make here.
Alejandro85,
Provided the author of the program provides a direct link. MiniTool Partition Wizard Free 9.0 links to cnet. I found out Majorgeeks links directly to the some authors websites and also links to free downloads on their servers. I have been using MajorGeek for a long time. Don't judge other sites because of a few bad apples.


All,

I am surprised on Tucows is bad now, didn't use to be.

The dell webcam software that I use is a PUP and has opencandy which I didn't allow to install but it also has some other pups. That pup has to be installed or it won't work correctly. It creates video effects. The reason it is detected as a pup is the video effects will work with other streaming video. I had no issues with that secondary pup at all.

Epson printer also installs a PUP, it is there registration software. It has confused a lot of MVPs and regulars here because it creates two suspicious registry keys.
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16 Mar 2015   #13
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

A lot of people shy away from FreeFileSync, my go to program for backing up data, because its installer has Open Candy in it. However, the Open Candy does not install itself on the computer and runs only when FFS is being installed. It will "offer" to one or more "extra" programs (Google Tool Bar, Chrome, etc.) but you can opt out of them; you just have to pay attention during install.
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16 Mar 2015   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Ironically when Unchecky was suggested a while back it also came with a pup
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16 Mar 2015   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Ironically when Unchecky was suggested a while back it also came with a pup
Curious! When did that happen and what web site was offering that? I didn't run into that problem when I first started using it quite some time ago.
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16 Mar 2015   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I try to be careful even on known good download sites.
At any time a site can change their methods seeking funds.
Something could of got in without the site administrators noticing for a period of time.
It still comes down to being careful and some what knowledgeable on what to look for.
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17 Mar 2015   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

From the developers website,
The pup wasn't hidden but still existed same as adobe products show it must be unchecked.
I can't remember what it came with.
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21 Mar 2015   #18
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
Alejandro85,
Provided the author of the program provides a direct link. MiniTool Partition Wizard Free 9.0 links to cnet. I found out Majorgeeks links directly to the some authors websites and also links to free downloads on their servers. I have been using MajorGeek for a long time. Don't judge other sites because of a few bad apples.
If the author isn't capable of even hosting his own creation, I would doubt how safe is the program to use, provided I can't find a trusted download. It's entirely a matter of speculation there. There are developers that host their programs but purposely infect them with adware (Filezilla for example), and others that use third party hosting that's known to infect programs.

It always comes to a trusting decition. Once you write your admin password into the UAC box, you're pretty much at the mercy of the program developer. The matter of who to trust is not a minor problem, and those fake sites offering infected downloads make it just harder.
But if I had to do a blind guess (ie, try an untested program) I would always bet my computer to the program hosted at the original developer website instead of a third party. Both can go all right or wrong, I agree with what you said of the few bad apples, but years of experience tells me that original sites very seldom deliver infected programs, while thats is an everyday occurrence with third party ones. Paying attention while installing partially mitigates the problem.
And of course, portables are a far better choice if possible.
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22 Mar 2015   #19
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
Alejandro85,
Provided the author of the program provides a direct link. MiniTool Partition Wizard Free 9.0 links to cnet. I found out Majorgeeks links directly to the some authors websites and also links to free downloads on their servers. I have been using MajorGeek for a long time. Don't judge other sites because of a few bad apples.
If the author isn't capable of even hosting his own creation, I would doubt how safe is the program to use, provided I can't find a trusted download. It's entirely a matter of speculation there. There are developers that host their programs but purposely infect them with adware (Filezilla for example), and others that use third party hosting that's known to infect programs.

It always comes to a trusting decition. Once you write your admin password into the UAC box, you're pretty much at the mercy of the program developer. The matter of who to trust is not a minor problem, and those fake sites offering infected downloads make it just harder.
But if I had to do a blind guess (ie, try an untested program) I would always bet my computer to the program hosted at the original developer website instead of a third party. Both can go all right or wrong, I agree with what you said of the few bad apples, but years of experience tells me that original sites very seldom deliver infected programs, while thats is an everyday occurrence with third party ones. Paying attention while installing partially mitigates the problem.
And of course, portables are a far better choice if possible.
It cost more money for someone to host their own download site. Keep in mind the author is offering the product for free.
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22 Mar 2015   #20
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
It cost more money for someone to host their own download site. Keep in mind the author is offering the product for free.
Sure, but not all programs are that expensive to make a difference. Most downloads generally are a few MBs at most, that's in par with the general hosting space and bandwidth of the website in general, so hosting cost actually doesn't grows up. When speaking of hundreds of MBs to the GB range, then yes, cost will likely increases.
Open source has yet another advantage here. There are many free hosting platforms to choose from (GitHub, SourceForge, Codeplex, Launchpad, BitBucket, among others) which can easily relieve developers of this cost entirely.

And even then, there is always a reason why people release software without charging. Often one considers hosting cost if were to install a website before. Either they use open source hosting platforms, host it together with some paid software that pays the cost, or flood the site with advertisings. All those options come before considering delivering purposely infected software into users. There is a matter of reputation too.
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