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Windows 7: Immunizing portable HDD

30 May 2015   #11
gabe22

Windows 7 Home Premium, Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
 
 

Any opinion of this: Test antivirus software for Windows 7 - April 2015 | AV-TEST ? its a list of AV software test result


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30 May 2015   #12
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Yes I've looked at those test results before and compared them against other methods that only measure how successful they are against real world zero day (unknown) threats rather than relying on virus definitions databases and the results are interesting.

You'll never get everyone to agree on which protection to use so it's a matter of using what you're comfortable with.

Sorry for the delay. I just tested a tool that claims to remove all infections from external drives and it also scanned my windows partition and removed stuff from the registry that it shouldn't have removed. I've restored most of it but I need a reboot and need to compare current registry against a saved snapshot.

It removed custom entries that actually enhance security! So that's one tool to avoid. [USBFix dot net] - not recommended.

Will be busy for a while. If you say that shortcuts didn't exist on your external drive but were somehow created then I'd suggest that it shouldn't happen. Try searching that drive for any files with a .lnk (note LNK not INK) extension and see if there are any that you do remember.
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30 May 2015   #13
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Some on demand tools that I use. (Other than MBAM and Emsisoft Emergency Kit). Let us know if you're interested.

Crystal Security Cloud Scannner. Can scan your external drive and flag up anything suspicious:

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Comodo Cleaning Essentials - Slow but as some useful tools.

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CrowdInspect checks and rates anything that's currently connecting.

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SigCheckGUI checks file signatures and checks against VirusTotal. Any malware is likely to be unsigned and detected on VirusTotal but an unsigned file isn't always a problem so care is needed.

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I don't know if you kept that SecureAge Application Whitelisting software but if you did - it would certainly warn you if an unsigned file attempts to run (including when you plug in an external drive) and will scan it against the VirusTotal database. It's pretty effective at keeping malware out.


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30 May 2015   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

From post #1

Quote:
Ofcourse I know I should be careful but sometimes you have to connect your devices to a system because you really need to/have to ...
I surly don't understand that statement.

I can think of no reason why one would hook anything to a computer that is or might be infected.

Where are you getting these infected devices. Where ever it is don't do it any more.
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30 May 2015   #15
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

Hi, again:

Getting back to the OP's original question about protecting/immunizing a USB external hard drive, I spotted this authoritative, expert and detailed list of USB Protection tools over at bleepingcomputer.com -- the entire thread may also be valuable for you:

Is there a way to safely get data from SD and USB - Page 2 - General Security

Cheers,
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30 May 2015   #16
gabe22

Windows 7 Home Premium, Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
 
 

@ Callender

Thank for your the detailed reply. I totally agree with you that people will never settle on same protection method, I just thought to ask option from you guys as I myself don't know much about these stuff ..

Also about the .lnk issue, I already searched and scanned the drive and nothing after first avast detection, it could simply be that the root of that issue was on the other system ... what I had was just its childs but still if there is a way to know for sure .. I would like to try it out ... just so I don't transfer anything malicious from this system to the new one.

About the [USBFix dot net] , maybe you should create a post and request to sticky it more people becomes aware of the issue and stay away from it.

CrowdInspect, SigCheckGUI .. these look similar to process explorer ... I already have process explorer on system, are these better or just alternative choices?
Also I downloaded Crystal security from Crystal Security and also Comodo from their official site .. will be running test and post back result if anything viable shows up.


BTW I'm thinking to try out Comodo internet security(free version) ... any opinions on this?


@ Layback Bear
Yes I totally agree with you, why would one knowining connect their device to another infected one ... doesn't make sense at all.
But its not always the case, for example ... yesterday I went to this local laptop dealer shop and ... was checking out a system ... I wanted to see some extended details so I connected my portable HDD to copy cpu-z and speccy to that system .. which I did but ... well clearly that system was infected to its teeth.
One would never expect a new system(not sure about the OS though) ... would have viruses ... but well .. it did!

Probably bad luck I suppose but shit happens ... so I'm just trying to get some additional security measures to lower the chances of getting screwed up like this in the future.


@ MoxieMomma
Thanks, I'll take a look and ask if I have any questions.


Finally do you guys have any suggestions about good AV combo's?
Currently I have .. default windows firewall+avast free+malwarebytes free
They are doing ok but lately some virus/other malicious stuff seem to bypass them ... so I'm looking for a possible better solution.
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30 May 2015   #17
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gabe22 View Post
Finally do you guys have any suggestions about good AV combo's for possibly win8 as I'm thinking to switch to 8.1?
Currently I have .. default windows firewall+avast free+malwarebytes free
They are doing ok but lately some virus/other malicious stuff seem to bypass them ..
. so I'm looking for a possible better solution.
Hi:

There are many fine AV choices. 10 computer users will offer at least 11 opinions about what's "best".
The choice depends on many variables for the system and for the user, his/her budget, his/her computing practices and needs, etc.
Sadly, most of the free ones now come with toolbars and other junk.

No one security application or combination thereof can possibly protect against 100% of all malware.
Many (most?) computer infections originate in the part of the computer between the chair and the keyboard.
Here are a few links with some suggestions and discussions:

What's the best anti-virus
Answers to common security questions - Best Practices
List of well known antivirus products
The complexity of finding, preventing, and cleanup from malware
So how did I get infected in the first place?
How did I get infected?
Six tips to help you stay safer online

However, just for the record, MBAM Free is only a manual, on-demand, anti-malware scanner.
It does not feature real-time protection.
It can only REMOVE infections that have already made it past your AV onto the system.
If you want to help PREVENT malware infections from getting onto the system in the first place, you need to have the paid, Premium version of MBAM. The paid version provides real-time protection alongside a robust anti-virus.

Cheers,
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31 May 2015   #18
gabe22

Windows 7 Home Premium, Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
 
 

@MoxieMomma

Thanks for the detailed insights .. and yes I alrady know that no AV can provide 100% protection but basically I'm trying to find something close to it ...

I'm more of free AV user .. so I'm gonna have to skip the premium ones.

The reason I'm looking for alternative solutions is because ... although Avast+MBAM did a decent job of keeping the system safe so far with a couple of issues but I still got infected with number of malwares and a possible rootkit which may still be somewhere in my system.

And also multiple times I have been told that avast+mbam isn't enough .. i need something better.

So that's I'm looking for something better than my present protection system.

I'll take sometime and read all the urls from your post ... and reply back if I have any questions.
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31 May 2015   #19
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

Hi:

You likely "still got infected" because you were only protected by Avast Free.
MBAM Free did not, does not and cannot "protect" you because it is only a manual, on-demand scanner.
It can only try to remove an infection that already made it past Avast onto the system.

So, yes, as the links in my previous reply point out, one does need a layered approach to defense.
One robust, real-time Anti-Virus, with one robust, real-time Anti-Malware, and other measures, such an Anti-Exploit application (e.g. Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit or EMET), a custom hosts file, etc..

To some extent, "you get what you pay for" with security software nowadays -- it costs money to develop and support robust products. There may be a couple of decent free anti-viruses left. But AFAIK, there are NO good, free anti-malware applications that offer real-time protection (both MBAM Premium and Emsisoft Anti-Malware are paid products).
So there will be only so much protection you can achieve with only free software.
A few $ for good security software is much cheaper than the time, effort and aggravation of trying to recover from data loss, identity theft or other malware-related catastrophe.

Regardless of one's choice of security software, the first and last line of computer defense is the part of the computer between the chair and the keyboard. The links in my previous reply explain how to modify one's computing practices in order to help prevent infection.

Cheers,
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31 May 2015   #20
gabe22

Windows 7 Home Premium, Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
 
 

Thank you for your input

BTW I was gonna ask you earlier, if I use the USB vacine that you suggested ... to imminize the portable HDD ... would/could it effect my casual daily usages?
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