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Windows 7: McAfee Total Protection & Windows Defender

23 Jun 2016   #1
LevelBest

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
 
 
McAfee Total Protection & Windows Defender

Is anyone successfully running McAfee (or another AV) and Windows Defender at the same time?


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23 Jun 2016   #2
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

If the installation process for an AV app turns off (disables) Windows Defender, the you should not try to run Windows Defender with that particular AV app. There are a few AV apps that leave Windows Defender enabled.

I would suggest uninstalling McAfee Total Protection and using Microsoft Security Essentials or Panda. McAfee does not have a good reputation in these forums.
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23 Jun 2016   #3
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Mcafee only has a good reputation on it's own support forum
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24 Jun 2016   #4
LevelBest

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
 
 

Yes I gathered that McAfee doesn't enjoy a good reputation on this forum. I've had McAfee for five years as it comes with PlusNet. It has let me down, the once with a virus but I now have MalwareBytes downloaded as an extra as most AV companies say that no one AV does it all.

I was toying with the idea of changing at some point but not sure what to go with. The only one that seems attractive to me is to buy the full version of MalwareBytes. Does anyone have that as their only AV (full, purchased premium version)?

LevelBest
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24 Jun 2016   #5
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Antivirus apps bury themselves deep in the operating system to be able to detect & suspend suspicious processes. Malwarebytes is not an antivirus app. That said, there are people that only use Malwarebytes. They have no antivirus app installed. The folks at Malwarebytes suggest that you use an antivirus app too.

https://support.malwarebytes.com/cus...are-?b_id=6438

Quote:
...there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors.

McAfee is "free" via several ISPs. Such "give aways" probably make up the majority of McAfee's install base. McAfee does not play well with others. You can read about LSP issues on several software vendor's websites. Here is but one. [MSE has not caused LSP problems for years now.] You got lucky and did not have any software conflicts or BSOD due to McAfee.

Maybe someone will post some install and setup tips for Panda.
Stuff like...
...no need to enter your e-mail address
...how to turn off adverts.
I've not played with Panda for months now.

If you opt for MSE, you will need Malwarebytes to catch the PUPs (Potentially Unwanted Programs) that MSE just does not bother with.
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24 Jun 2016   #6
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yes most of us use mbam premium although most of use were grandfathered from mbam pro which was a one time purchase so most do not pay monthly or yearly dues.
But it is highly recommended to have.

Just because a isp offers free av does not mean anyone should use it

Panda free is what I've been using and it's very good
On the install it does offer some crapware like Yahoo.... and Panda security toolbar which I unchecked all of that stuff.
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24 Jun 2016   #7
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Using more than one AV product at the same time is NOT recommended. The results of doing this are unpredictable but may include having less protection that you would with either product.

AV products are not normal applications. To do their job they must integrate themselves into the OS in ways considered unacceptable for normal applications. AV products are not designed to coexist with each other and things get very messy when they do. Best to avoid the situation entirely.

Windows defender has some advantages in that it's developers tend to know the OS better and have access to internal documentation that third party developers do not.
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24 Jun 2016   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

It's been posted but I think it needs posted again.

**Malwarebytes Anti Malware in NOT a anti virus program. It is as the name implies, a anti malware program.

I believe like the people that made Malwarebytes, it should be used with a anti virus program.

What one uses for a anti virus program is up to the owner of the computer.
Personally for me McAfee would never be on the list of anti virus programs to even try. The problems McAfee has had for years is all the proof I need to stay away from it.

What I use active on my computers and that has worked very well for many years is:

1. Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)

2. Malwarebytes Anti Malware Premium.

I use several on demand security programs when I think it is or might be necessary.
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28 Jun 2016   #9
znop01

New York
 
 

I use McAfee Enterprise 8.7.0i and the Avast online Security (Google Chrome plugin/exstention) -- And, haven't had a virus, malware, trojan, worm, nor spyware attack -- they all get caught. Updating to version 8.8 tonight
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28 Jun 2016   #10
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by znop01 View Post
I use McAfee Enterprise 8.7.0i and the Avast online Security (Google Chrome plugin/exstention) -- And, haven't had a virus, malware, trojan, worm, nor spyware attack -- they all get caught. Updating to version 8.8 tonight
How could you know that "they all get caught"? Security apps are not going to alert you to unknown items/actions. McAfee's heuristics are not that good. Unknown things don't get caught: https://community.mcafee.com/thread/...art=0&tstart=0 The same can be said for Symantec Endpoint Protection (which I'm stuck with at work).

At least Chrome is improving:
Pwn2Own 2015: The year every web browser went down | ZDNet
Pwn2Own 2016: Chrome, Edge, and Safari hacked, $460,000 awarded in total | VentureBeat | Security | by Emil Protalinski
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