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Windows 7: MSE alternative update idea

06 Aug 2016   #1
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 
MSE alternative update idea

MSE alternative update idea

"...Microsoft Security Essentials...virus definitions won't update..."
I had, off/on, for years, this problem, here's what I finally, recently, did:

Created a MSE DNLD shortcut to:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" "http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=87341"
Addendum: BC Quietman7's followup post is spot-on! Mine is W7Pro 64bit; go here for the 32-bit: https://www.microsoft.com/security/p...tions/adl.aspx

Created a MSE RUN shortcut to: [to whatever directory you downloaded]\mpam-feX64.exe

Twice weekly, I do MSE DNLD first, then MSE RUN. No more update hangups. Once the biggie EXE downloads, it silently updates MSE real fast.

I recommend either Internet Explorer or Firefox to download that EXE, 'cause GChrome often returns something like "File Security Check Fail" at almost every download, even ones from Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity type web sites.


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06 Aug 2016   #2
AmericanPharaoh

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Just for the record, I using MSE and not experiencing update issues. Perhaps, you have something else going on. Possibly a software conflict with another third party application. I remember, in the past having MSE update problems when I installed certain applications. Since removing those, no more update problems with MSE.

John
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07 Aug 2016   #3
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

John, you're right as rain! That certainly was a problem way back when! However, since then, many 3rd party programs have been removed. Along with MSE and Windows 7 Firewall, In action, is only Emsisoft Anti-Malware and until yesterday - HitmanPro & its Alert. I do have current full image OS backups, so I could experiment some...maybe I should run Piriform Speccy? You got any coffee you can PM me? It's early in the morning!
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07 Aug 2016   #4
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Hi Roland,
Have a look at whats in,
(note change folder view to show hidden)
Program files
Program files (x86)
delete any offending items.
Any remnants from previous AV's can cause this type of problem, its actually quite common.

Roy
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07 Aug 2016   #5
MoxieMomma

OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
 
 

Hi, @RolandJS:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Any remnants from previous AV's can cause this type of problem, its actually quite common.

Roy
It's probably the Emsisoft Anti-Malware.
Despite its name, EAM is actually both an AV and AM: "Antivirus and Anti-Malware, all-in-one".
(The name choice was made by the company because MOST malware these days is non-viral.)

If you are running both MSE and EAM, you are, in essence, running 2 AVs.

As the others have suggested, it's advisable to have only one AV installed.
Even if the other AV is not running in real-time, the drivers can cause conflicts, slow-downs and other performance problems.

I respectfully suggest fully and cleanly uninstalling either MSE or EAM.

Cheers,
MM
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07 Aug 2016   #6
AmericanPharaoh

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

@RolandJS,

Sorry, I missed the PM Coffee break...must of shut down right after posting you.

The reason a lot of third-party applications have compatibility issue are due to not certifying their software drivers with Microsoft...so I'm told. In addition: Third-Party software makers are always trying to play catch up to Microsoft.

As pointed out by MoxieMomma, having two AVs will certainly cause compatibility issues.... especially with creating "False Positions" in scan results.

@torchman, good suggestion!

John
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07 Aug 2016   #7
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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07 Aug 2016   #8
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

I've had MSE update problems even way back to Windows 95-98SE, without Emsisoft AM. For awhile, I will stick with the two-step/two icons-twice weekly. Since I make routine OS partition full image backups, I can experiment and perhaps reach a smoothness of MSE operations.
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08 Aug 2016   #9
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
The scheduled task worked very well when I used MSE
I dumped MSE when the update system went unreliable and switched to free Panda
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08 Aug 2016   #10
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Youse guys and gals gave good advice about not having two AVs running at the same time, so within MSE I unclicked all "action" boxes except for a scheduled scan daily 7pm.
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