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02-24-2009
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Firewalls & Internet Security Sometime ago I decided that Norton whatever was a resource hog. I also got tired of having network conflicts and I percieved that I was forever fighting with Norton and unable to share files, printers, on a wireless network. So I made the decision that all Microsoft would be better?? I then started using Windows Live One Care(WLOC). Now I have read that WLOC will no longer be available after Windows 7 starts. Also lately I have experienced 'wierdness' with WLOC, networking in a wireless network, sharing files, Firewall goes off, doesn't update, etc., etc. WLOC has an electronic firewall (as I understand it.) All that having been said, If a person has a router then they have a Hardware Firewall. Does a person then need the electronic Firewall put up by program like Norton Internet Security, WLOC, etc ?? -- or -- is the Hardware Firewall and a good Virus Scanning Program, sufficent (a program that takes care of virus', shareware, malware, yourware, ourware, (just a little dry humor). Can anyone advise on this. God's speed - Patrick C | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv6t OS Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit CPU AMD A8-3510MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics Memory 6 Gigabytes Graphics Card 1GB of DDR3 Memory 7ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Sound Card Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 - 32-bit Color Mouse On-Board Laptop Synaptics (driver) Point device Cooling Laptop sits on a Belkin stand with a cooling fan from USB. Hard Drives 600 Gig - C:\ 299 G ; D:\ 298 G ; E:\ 32 G Internet Speed Broadband -Wireless Net Gear (B, G, & N) |
02-24-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Hi Patrick,
What I use is Windows Firewall and Avast Home..It's free and very light on the system. It has a network shield that has saved me more than once, among 6 other providers and has an anti spyware module and rootkit detector as well. I find WF and Avast to be very good in overall protection IMO.
There are also some good antispyware programs that work well with Avast and can be used as supplements to it. Malwarebytes is a very good free program, also Spybot SD has real time protection and works just fine along side Avast as well as Win Defender. You just have to run Spybot in Vista Compatibilty mode and run it as an adminstrator.
Just my opinion, letting you know what works good for me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
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02-25-2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit |
I use windows firewall and nod32 av. You could try the beta of nod32 smart security to see if its to your liking. ESET Smart Security Beta Program | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
2x Samsung F1 1Tb Internet Speed 8128/443 |
02-25-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot Hi Patrick,
What I use is Windows Firewall and Avast Home..It's free and very light on the system. It has a network shield that has saved me more than once, among 6 other providers and has an anti spyware module and rootkit detector as well. I find WF and Avast to be very good in overall protection IMO.
There are also some good antispyware programs that work well with Avast and can be used as supplements to it. Malwarebytes is a very good free program, also Spybot SD has real time protection and works just fine along side Avast as well as Win Defender. You just have to run Spybot in Vista Compatibilty mode and run it as an adminstrator.
Just my opinion, letting you know what works good for me.  Airbot - Good Advice! I chose AVG Anti-Virus (Home User is Free), I have the Windows Firewall on, and I am running Windows Defender alongside. I have a Cable Modem feeding the Internet to my Home Wireless Network through a router - A hardware Firewall. My ISP filters Spam, Virus scans and I don't instant Message. I think therefore, that I don't need the electronic Firewall of Internet Security Programs. Thank You Guys for your recommendations. Also Swarfega I looked at the ESET Smart Security Beta program specifications and although real good I think I am covered with what I have. Thanks to You both - God's Speed - Patrick C | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv6t OS Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit CPU AMD A8-3510MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics Memory 6 Gigabytes Graphics Card 1GB of DDR3 Memory 7ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Sound Card Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 - 32-bit Color Mouse On-Board Laptop Synaptics (driver) Point device Cooling Laptop sits on a Belkin stand with a cooling fan from USB. Hard Drives 600 Gig - C:\ 299 G ; D:\ 298 G ; E:\ 32 G Internet Speed Broadband -Wireless Net Gear (B, G, & N) |
02-25-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Patrick C All that having been said, If a person has a router then they have a Hardware Firewall. Does a person then need the electronic Firewall put up by program like Norton Internet Security, WLOC, etc ?? -- or -- is the Hardware Firewall and a good Virus Scanning Program, sufficent (a program that takes care of virus', shareware, malware, yourware, ourware, (just a little dry humor). Can anyone advise on this. God's speed - Patrick C In a nutshell, Routers that have Network Address Translation (NAT) "can" be configured to "act" as a Firewall (i.e. NAT Firewall, Hardware Firewall, Network Firewall or Stand Alone Firewall).
Most home routers come configured as NAT enabled by default. NAT enabled is not synonymous to Firewall Enabled. It simply means that it is ready to perform network address translations and normally common ports if not all are mostly open. Only by configuring NAT is it able to perform/act as a proper firewall.
This is where personal/software firewall comes in. These little marvels are above most, user-friendly and easy to configure and comes with integrated virus protection, traffic analyzers, intrusion detection and application blockers/malware protection among other things.
Unfortunately, only industrial grade Routers like that of what Cisco is offering to corporate environments can claim to be sufficient and able to act as an all-in-one firewall solution to keep network computer safe.
That is why having a good personal/software firewall is essential to pick-up where your home router is lacking.
I hope this was not too much of a read for you
Aaron and swarfegy already shared their personal preferences on software firewall applications to use.
Cheers | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Build 7048 x64 CPU Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+ Motherboard EMX-AMD750G-PRO Memory 4 x 1GB Kingston 400MHz 6-6-6-18 (800MHz) Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3650 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 22" AOC 2216Vw Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Generic Enhanced Natural Keyboard Mouse Logitech VX Nano Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM Other Info Edifier M1550 |
02-25-2009
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#6 | | Windows Se7en Ultimate Beta x86 Build 7057 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot Hi Patrick,
What I use is Windows Firewall and Avast Home..It's free and very light on the system. It has a network shield that has saved me more than once, among 6 other providers and has an anti spyware module and rootkit detector as well. I find WF and Avast to be very good in overall protection IMO.
There are also some good antispyware programs that work well with Avast and can be used as supplements to it. Malwarebytes is a very good free program, also Spybot SD has real time protection and works just fine along side Avast as well as Win Defender. You just have to run Spybot in Vista Compatibilty mode and run it as an adminstrator.
Just my opinion, letting you know what works good for me.  +1 on the Avast+Win Firewall. It's all about behavior really in avoiding threats and those two work just fine especially if your behind a router with a firewall also. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS M1210 OS Windows Se7en Ultimate Beta x86 Build 7057 CPU 1.83Ghz Centrino Duo Motherboard MXC062 Dell Mainboard Memory 4GB 2x2GB 677Mhz Graphics Card 256MB nVidia Gefroce Go7400 Sound Card Intel High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 12.1 LED Glossy Screen Resolution 1280x800 Keyboard Dell US Standard Full Size w/o Backlight Mouse Synaptics Touchpad/Logitech Notebook Mini Cooling NextTech Laptop Cooling Pad. 15CFMx2 USB powered Hard Drives Hitachi 320GB 5400| SimpleDrive 1TB External USB2.0 | Internet Speed 10Mbps Down/512Kbps Up Other Info Eee 701 Original Netbook Overclocked to 1GHz
Windows XP SP3
1GB RAM
4GB SSD
16GB SDHC |
02-25-2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
A software firewall program is always more protection .... being behind a router just isn't enough with the malware that's on the Internet in today's surfing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected Internet Speed DSL Other Info ATI HDMI Audio |
02-25-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by NosferatuX In a nutshell, Routers that have Network Address Translation (NAT) "can" be configured to "act" as a Firewall (i.e. NAT Firewall, Hardware Firewall, Network Firewall or Stand Alone Firewall).
Most home routers come configured as NAT enabled by default. NAT enabled is not synonymous to Firewall Enabled. It simply means that it is ready to perform network address translations and normally common ports if not all are mostly open. Only by configuring NAT is it able to perform/act as a proper firewall.
This is where personal/software firewall comes in. These little marvels are above most, user-friendly and easy to configure and comes with integrated virus protection, traffic analyzers, intrusion detection and application blockers/malware protection among other things.
Unfortunately, only industrial grade Routers like that of what Cisco is offering to corporate environments can claim to be sufficient and able to act as an all-in-one firewall solution to keep network computer safe.
That is why having a good personal/software firewall is essential to pick-up where your home router is lacking.
I hope this was not too much of a read for you
Aaron and swarfegy already shared their personal preferences on software firewall applications to use.
Cheers  NosferatuX - Good Morning! Your input was great and contained some of the details I have been looking for. I have a Linksys WRT160N (B,G, & N) router. I checked into it and found that it has a "Filter Internet NAT Redirction" setting. Also there is also "Filter Anonymous Internet requests", Filter Multicast", & "Filter IDENT (Port 113)". I can also filter my MAC address as an added layer of security. I am using 'WAP2 Personal' Security, so I think I am covered. Thanks for the distinctions so I have been able to make sure I am covered. The issue now becomes if I ever use my Laptop elsewhere. Always another opportunity with computers!?!? Thank You, Weedmonk, & Jacee for your inputs - God's Speed - Patrick C | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv6t OS Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit CPU AMD A8-3510MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics Memory 6 Gigabytes Graphics Card 1GB of DDR3 Memory 7ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Sound Card Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 - 32-bit Color Mouse On-Board Laptop Synaptics (driver) Point device Cooling Laptop sits on a Belkin stand with a cooling fan from USB. Hard Drives 600 Gig - C:\ 299 G ; D:\ 298 G ; E:\ 32 G Internet Speed Broadband -Wireless Net Gear (B, G, & N) |
02-25-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot Hi Patrick,
What I use is Windows Firewall and Avast Home..It's free and very light on the system. It has a network shield that has saved me more than once, among 6 other providers and has an anti spyware module and rootkit detector as well. I find WF and Avast to be very good in overall protection IMO.
There are also some good antispyware programs that work well with Avast and can be used as supplements to it. Malwarebytes is a very good free program, also Spybot SD has real time protection and works just fine along side Avast as well as Win Defender. You just have to run Spybot in Vista Compatibilty mode and run it as an adminstrator.
Just my opinion, letting you know what works good for me.  Airbot - You were right AVAST seems to be a much better interface. I used AVG for a day but I decided to try AVAST. I also installed Vista SP2 Beta. Went right into Vista Ultimate 64. I realize I can't compare before AVAST to after but I like new stuff. Patrick C | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv6t OS Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit CPU AMD A8-3510MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics Memory 6 Gigabytes Graphics Card 1GB of DDR3 Memory 7ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Sound Card Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 - 32-bit Color Mouse On-Board Laptop Synaptics (driver) Point device Cooling Laptop sits on a Belkin stand with a cooling fan from USB. Hard Drives 600 Gig - C:\ 299 G ; D:\ 298 G ; E:\ 32 G Internet Speed Broadband -Wireless Net Gear (B, G, & N) |
02-25-2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Glad you found a solution that works for you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)
Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M Internet Speed DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps Other Info Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
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