MS Security Essentials Vs. AVG 9.0

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  1. Posts : 554
    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
       #91

    I installed MSE on my netbook running Win7 Home Premium. Even with only 1 GB of RAM, I don't even know it's there. Never liked AVG, free version or otherwise.
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  2. Posts : 8,375
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       #92

    The NSE is far from any resource eater there. But it won't prevent things from getting on the system just find them afterwards like the trojan mentioned earlier.

    The IE security now seen with the AVG 9.0 build would have prevented from getting on in the first place by sounding an alarm. That along with AVG itself however was disabled due to problems seen with any antivirus program with a few updated versions of softwares run here. To have one you lose the other!
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  3. Posts : 1,470
    Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition
       #93

    currently avast, been planning on trying out mse but haven't gotten around to it yet, really as long as it's detection is halfway decent and it doesn't use many resources i'm good. haven't had a virus in years even on some machines that went months with no measure of protection outside of my safe usage habits. knowledge is the best defense against any virus threat.
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  4. Posts : 8,375
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       #94

    At this point the only thing kept active is the IE security bar option in AVG 9.0 with the rest disabled showing how long it's been since getting hit with any "unwanted guests"?!

    Back on Page #8 you can see the "Pest" not "gueat" that arrived! What was surprizing this time around was AVG not springing up even while disabled to grab it as it has on previous builds. While Grisoft got it right with the IE bar they seem to be slipping up on malicious code detection with their latest.
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  5. Posts : 1,289
       #95

    Ive been running tests of a custom built web indexing tool designed for check the connectivity of multiple pages and sites, it happens some executable links showed up in the results... Ive found one that I can confirm is a virus but im rather astonished that there are multiple failings from Google's 'safe' site rating and failures of nearly every anti-virus to detect it.

    (If anyone has an idea how we can report the domain, how do we do it? or do we wait to see what AV engines begin detecting the file?)

       Warning
    This is a new virus variant, currently being used in the wild and mostly undetected by Anti-Virus engines!

    hxxp://72.52.206.241/micro/system.exe

    I downloaded this file and uploaded it to VirusTotal for analysis, The results are below:

    MS Security Essentials Vs. AVG 9.0-avresults.jpg

    Microsoft's MSE is basically the only major player listed here which I think demonstrates a much better detection rate from new virus variants by MSE than most other major AV products.

    On a side note, I think Microsoft should share their virus samples with other vendor's a lot more quickly.
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  6. jav
    Posts : 713
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
       #96

    Thank you dmex.
    Site submitted to McAfee siteadvisor

    Getting similar results from novirusthanks link checker.
    MS Security Essentials Vs. AVG 9.0-capture.jpg

    On a side note, I think Microsoft should share their virus samples with other vendor's a lot more quickly.
    I do agree with you on that.
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  7. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #97

    The one thing to remember about any AV product is that you always end up waiting for the next newer build before the program's data base and malicious code detection processes are updated. MSE is brand new now and why it is picking up where others are missing this.

    I couldn't help but notice that
    "Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites"had this reference to AVG as one of the Highly Rated Anti-Spyware Programs at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

    Other Highly Rated Anti-Spyware Programs
    Ad-Aware is certainly now "out of the loop" due to their prepackaging the Ask search engine toolbar! This is always one thing to watch out for when programs start adding in other things unrelated to the actual program itself. Spyware Terminator while a better cleaner, active shield will see the Clam AV option included there.
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 13 Jan 2010 at 23:35. Reason: Additional Information
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  8. Posts : 8,476
    Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
       #98

    dmex said:
    Ive been running tests of a custom built web indexing tool designed for check the connectivity of multiple pages and sites, it happens some executable links showed up in the results... Ive found one that I can confirm is a virus but im rather astonished that there are multiple failings from Google's 'safe' site rating and failures of nearly every anti-virus to detect it.

    (If anyone has an idea how we can report the domain, how do we do it? or do we wait to see what AV engines begin detecting the file?)

       Warning
    This is a new virus variant, currently being used in the wild and mostly undetected by Anti-Virus engines!

    hxxp://72.52.206.241/micro/system.exe

    I downloaded this file and uploaded it to VirusTotal for analysis, The results are below:

    MS Security Essentials Vs. AVG 9.0-avresults.jpg

    Microsoft's MSE is basically the only major player listed here which I think demonstrates a much better detection rate from new virus variants by MSE than most other major AV products.

    On a side note, I think Microsoft should share their virus samples with other vendor's a lot more quickly.
    Turned off my AV. downloaded and ran this file. Then scanned the computer with Hitman Pro, it detected and removed all.
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  9. Posts : 8,375
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       #99

    Another tool you may want to look over is the Secunia Online Software Inspector. Scan Now - Online (OSI) - Vulnerability Scanning - Secunia.com
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  10. Posts : 2
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #100

    I've been a customer of Zonelabs' Zonealarm Antivirus for four years, and my subscription runs through July 2011. For the most part, ZA has been satisfactory, albeit annoying at times, on my XP machines. There's no question that having the firewall and on-access AV scan running slows the computer significantly.

    That said, when my previous computer's power supply started to fail, I bought a new computer with Windows 7 installed on it. After reading the various reviews online, I downloaded and installed MS Security Essentials, as well as letting the MS Firewall run. I haven't bothered to reinstall Zonealarms AV. MSE and the Windows 7 firewall do at least as good of a job as Zonealarm, work seamlessly with W7, have a smaller resource "footprint", and aren't as annoying or intrusive. Coupled with User Account Control (which I have dialed up to the top and which definitely *IS* intrusive and annoying) and some common sense in visiting "risky" websites, it's as likely that I'm safe from threats as it would be running a third-party security system.

    Again, this is on Windows 7. Users of other Windows systems would probably do well to continue to patronize the better commercial security suites. Also, some business and home users may have different needs and require a cutting-edge security setup. As for me, my Zonealarm subscription will likely expire, with the last 10 months of it unused.
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