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Windows 7: MSE Updates

07 Jan 2010   #1
lior

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
MSE Updates

While I've only had MSE for about a week (I like the way it's integrated into Windows and the small memory print), I'm concerned about how infrequent the updates are. Although MS says the program will download definition updates automatically, there's no way to manually enable it. The update is essentially on auto pilot. Moreover, even though I've been using my system regularly for the past two days and always connected to the Internet, the program never updated for the past 48 hours. It would only update if I manually update it, which to me is unacceptable for modern anti-virus software. On my XP system, Avast updates at least 3 times a day, let alone not even once in 48 hours. Am I missing something?


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07 Jan 2010   #2
Orpheous

XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64)
 
 

If you open MSE, and go into the settings, it allows you to change the scan frequency to daily. Beneath that it says that it will scan for definitions before scanning. You can also check the box to only allow scanning when the pc's not in use.
That's the only way that I've found, that's not to say it's the only way though.
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07 Jan 2010   #3
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

MSE will auto update itself.
1. If you put scheduled scan (you can put just Quick Scan), at some given time.
So it will update it's definitions before scheduled scan everyday.

2. Put Windows update check for updates at some given time everyday, so it will update MSE definitions aswell.
http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-u...gs-change.html

So now, you are updating your MSE definitions atlest twice a day.
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07 Jan 2010   #4
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

hi !

yes.
you can change settings to do a daily scan & to update before scanning.

also take a look at my post:
http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-u...ws-update.html
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07 Jan 2010   #5
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

There is an "upgrade" today that I'm installing right now.
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07 Jan 2010   #6
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

ok, there you go:
Updating MSE when PC started is it possible.
But I bet you can put this command into task scheulder aswell.
Code:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Essentials\MpCmdRun.exe" -SignatureUpdate
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07 Jan 2010   #7
UrbanBounca

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
There is an "upgrade" today that I'm installing right now.
Is it an actual MSE software upgrade or simply a definition update? I've noticed that MS releases a new definition update daily around 4a EST.
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07 Jan 2010   #8
lior

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Thanks all for the responses. Why am I not surprised at Microsoft's stupidity to make such a simple option so tedious.

1) My WU is set to automatic install. As such, if there are any updates available my system will download and install automatically. My MSE scheduled scan interval is set for weekly, which is what I prefer.

2) The system I'm using MSE on is at very low risk for any viruses or trojans, which is one of the main reasons I changed to MSE. I don't need these bulky "security" suites. I also have very few programs installed on this system, all legally licensed.

3) I think it's quite redundent that to get the latest definition updates I have to practically schedule a daily scan. What if I only want to scan my system once or twice a week? The definitions for the real-time protection still need to be updated in the meanwhile.

Jav: I think the command line option may be the best workaround yet. I'll try it later today.
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07 Jan 2010   #9
UrbanBounca

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lior View Post
Thanks all for the responses. Why am I not surprised at Microsoft's stupidity to make such a simple option so tedious.

1) My WU is set to automatic install. As such, if there are any updates available my system will download and install automatically. My MSE scheduled scan interval is set for weekly, which is what I prefer.

2) The system I'm using MSE on is at very low risk for any viruses or trojans, which is one of the main reasons I changed to MSE. I don't need these bulky "security" suites. I also have very few programs installed on this system, all legally licensed.

3) I think it's quite redundent that to get the latest definition updates I have to practically schedule a daily scan. What if I only want to scan my system once or twice a week? The definitions for the real-time protection still need to be updated in the meanwhile.

Jav: I think the command line option may be the best workaround yet. I'll try it later today.
You can set it to daily, and check the box with something around the lines of "Only scan my system when it's not in use and idle..." It's right below the "Download updates before system scan..." check box.
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07 Jan 2010   #10
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

I do not use scheduled scans.

I never choose to manually update.

I accept the default auto updates and receive them every 36 to 48 hours.

MSE uses a cloud technology to protect the user from threats that are not in the most recently installed definition database. Any unknown threat is evaluated through the cloud.

It seems to work OK--by which I mean I have not had a single issue since I installed MSE about 6 weeks ago. I periodically run scans with other programs and they have not picked up anything.

If I ever have reason to doubt the efficacy of the cloud technology, I will start worrying. But as of now, no issues.

I did see some comments on a Microsoft forum that MS may be changing the update technique in an upcoming release, but no details were known at that time.
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