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Windows 7 - Serious Security Breach Windows 7 Account! Need help! |
02-18-2010
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#11 | | 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkAngelSent The Administrator account has a password and was disabled during initial configuration.
There are no key loggers on my machine.
What really is stumping me is that he had to restart the machine to do this. This is leading me to beleive that he tampered with a windows file. Perhaps deleted a file containing the user account passwords in particular. (I dont know what windows calls it as i only know it for linux). Again he had no access to the windows environment itself. So i dont think a software keylogger would be something id account for. Nor did he have peripherals such as hardware keyloggers. Well ... if I may be allowed to joke with you (in a totally friendly way) unless he had a "magic wand", there is no way he could login to your computer, either linux or windows, without your password, or some external operating system.
BTW this tutorial is a legit way to enable the Default Administrator Account when one has damaged his computer and no longer has any administrator rights with any user accounts. That is why I recommend giving the special account a password. User Account Password - Change from WinRE
Cheers!
Robert | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (single core) Motherboard Foxconn NF4UK8AA Memory 2 X 1GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics Card PNY GeForce 7300 256MB PCIE Sound Card NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Onboard Chipset Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer AL1716 Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Hard Drives Maxtor 6Y060L0, WD 1600JS Internet Speed 3M Cable Other Info Windows Experience Index: 3.3 |
02-18-2010
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#12 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Your mention of Linux makes me wonder if you are dual booting with a Linux distro? If so, and he could access that, he could read Windows files with it I'm not certain, but I think that could be done with a Linux Live CD. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
02-18-2010
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I think this thread has gone far enough with information relating to certain access points. | My System Specs | | |
02-18-2010
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Encrypt the Hardrive like with www.truecrypt.org | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - Looking into upgrading CPU and adding SSD |
02-18-2010
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If you think he could get into the boot menu or bios, you can disable the keys on startup like...you will not be able to use them either if you need to though.
Edit apologies: Sorry Brady I didn't read your post, I was trying to offer a way to protect not bring up securtiy flaws and what not | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - Looking into upgrading CPU and adding SSD |
02-18-2010
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There are also programs like Eraser to get rid of sensitive data so it cant be dug up from your computer if it is compromised. or get a program to create an encypted vault for your files. If you think he might have a program to hack your password, remember the longer the pass the better. even if he could decrypt your pasword, if its 20 chars long, it will take him months(?) to crack it as opposed to days(?) for a 6 alphanumerics | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - Looking into upgrading CPU and adding SSD |
02-18-2010
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A reboot with a hirens bootable cd and use of tools would make any of the problems possible. Also a Live Ubuntu CD would give full access as well and it is easy to reset the Ubuntu password from a command line on boot.
I would report this person to the proper authority if it is relevant. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ACER aspire one OS XP/W7/Lucid/Arch Memory 2 gigs |
02-18-2010
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#18 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkAngelSent My CD Tray and USB's were not used.
I want to prevent this from happening again. Either way I need to know what he did to prevent it. Can you please tell me what he did? Did you ask him what he did ? Did you bring it to a higher authority ?
Is this your own personal computer ? If it is ... Well Then ...... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU C2D E8200 Motherboard XFX 750i Memory 8GB PNY PC2-6400 Graphics Card BFG 9600GT x 2 Sound Card Stock XFX Optical Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 22" HD Display PSU Ultra LSP 550 Pro Lifetime Series Case Xion2 Cooling ThermalTake Hard Drives C: 1 TB G: 500 GB H: 500 GB |
02-19-2010
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#19 | | Windows 7 Professional x64, Windows Server 2008 x64, Ubuntu 9.1 |
Yea I had a gut feeling he used my ubuntu to access my windows files. But I have a secure alphanumeric password for both the root and my account pass on my Ubuntu as well as my Windows 7. I have already set a bios password as well and set my HDD as my primary boot device.
As for reporting him. (while I am a bit pissed that he tampered with a configuration without telling me first (ie delete my account passwords), its just something he does. Hes a classmate and we both study in the network securities field. ie, he does it to try to motivate me to keep updated on security flaws and weaknesses. This is why he wont tell me exactly what he did. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to figure out what he did and its unnerving that he can break into my account when he pleases (though i have the bios passwd set now). The methods for "resetting" the windows password do not meet the criteria of events and procedures he used.
If this issue really is a "flaw" or weakness in the operating system. I would think that this knowledge should be public knowledge so that the community and people around the world can work to protect themselves. While I understand why some users are compelled to keep this under wraps, If you hide these weaknesses, your basically just saying. "Yea ok, theres a problem, but were not gonna tell you what the problem is." One of the first things they teach us is that Obscurity is the worst form of network security. If these people know about this weakness, they must have learned it somewhere, and if that flow of information and education stops, the new generation of security admins will not have the proper education to protect the systems they are hired to protect. I cannot help but feel that this is more than just an attempt at obscurity, as the logic behind the argument to me is flawed based on the security through obscurity principle. Instead (while intentional or unintentional) the feeling of oppressing the learning and education of emerging students in regards to that information can only serve to increase the gap between amatures and professionals.
As I see it, security breaches like this are like a festering wound. If you leave it unattended for too long, itll become worse and worse. Ignoring it and witholding treatment does nothing to serve the community. With that in mind, I think its unethical to withhold this kind of information that the community of users have a right to know about to protect themselves with.
Thank you Iseeuu. The method you described seems to fit the criteria. Ill explore into this in greater detail and get back to you with my results. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Angel Networks Custom Server OS Windows 7 Professional x64, Windows Server 2008 x64, Ubuntu 9.1 CPU AMD Phenom 9950 Black Edition x4 Motherboard Asus M3A32 Memory 8gb 1066mhz OCZ Fatality Edition Graphics Card 4x Radeon HD 4850 Toxic Editions Sound Card Realtech Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 4x Samsung 19' 1080i LCD Screen Resolution 1900 by something I cant remember Keyboard Logitec Wireless Mouse Logitec Wireless PSU 2x Corsair HX1000W Case Antec 900 Series A Type Cooling SphereXP, 4x 120mm Fans, 1 320mm Fan, VGA Cooling fans Hard Drives 3x Seagate Baraccuda 500gb 7200rpm in Raid 5 Configuration
3x Seagate Baraccuda 1tb 7200rpm in Raid 5 Configuration Internet Speed Shite |
02-19-2010
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Yeah he used your ubuntu OS to bypass your login, Following this guide to reset a ubuntu password is quite trivial because recovery mode drops you into a root shell by default without requiring a password
I recommend removing ubuntu. How to reset your password in Ubuntu | My System Specs | | Serious Security Breach Windows 7 Account! Need help! problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:38 PM. |  |