MSE and Zone Alarm

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  1. HJA
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    MSE and Zone Alarm


    I installed MSE the other day and right away had system hangs after boot. Went through the boot list and disabled things to troubleshoot. Disabled Zone Alarm True Vector and no problems. Once back online I searched for MSE problems and Zone Alarm was high on the listings. Seems MSE doesn't like ZA very much. I happen to like ZA a lot so I guess I'll head back to ESET NOD. I had zero troubles as far as operation untill MSE. Free is nice , if it works.
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  2. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
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    HJA said:
    I installed MSE the other day and right away had system hangs after boot. Went through the boot list and disabled things to troubleshoot. Disabled Zone Alarm True Vector and no problems. Once back online I searched for MSE problems and Zone Alarm was high on the listings. Seems MSE doesn't like ZA very much. I happen to like ZA a lot so I guess I'll head back to ESET NOD. I had zero troubles as far as operation untill MSE. Free is nice , if it works.

    why dont you just use eset smart security and not use zap? ESS has a commercial grade firewall and uses the NOD32 av.

    Ken
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  3. HJA
    Posts : 121
    Thread Starter
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    why dont you just use eset smart security
    Still have over a year left on subscription. I'll look into Smart Security though. Thanks for the tip.
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  4. Posts : 236
    Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
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    HJA said:
    Still have over a year left on subscription. I'll look into Smart Security though. Thanks for the tip.
    I understand this on one level, as I have held on to a couple of virus checker programs I thought were substandard because I paid for them.

    However, there is a rule that makes a lot of sense, even though it is rarely followed (even by me).

    Don't make decisions based on sunk costs.
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  5. Posts : 310
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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    With MSE use Windows 7 Firewall Control to top off the firewall provided with Windows 7... You will likely never look back...
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  6. Posts : 565
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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    HJA said:
    I installed MSE the other day and right away had system hangs after boot. Went through the boot list and disabled things to troubleshoot. Disabled Zone Alarm True Vector and no problems. Once back online I searched for MSE problems and Zone Alarm was high on the listings. Seems MSE doesn't like ZA very much. I happen to like ZA a lot so I guess I'll head back to ESET NOD. I had zero troubles as far as operation untill MSE. Free is nice , if it works.
    I have ZoneAlarm firewall and MSE running in a VM together without a problem. It's not MSE. Most likely the issue is user error.
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  7. HJA
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    I have ZoneAlarm firewall and MSE running in a VM together without a problem. It's not MSE. Most likely the issue is user error.
    After lockups constantly I went through in Safe Mode and limited the startup programs until I tried the ZA True Vector. Now it's running smooth. I found numerous posts all over regarding MSE and ZA. I don't use a Virtual PC. So I am listening. Whats MY error?????
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  8. Posts : 565
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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    HJA said:
    I have ZoneAlarm firewall and MSE running in a VM together without a problem. It's not MSE. Most likely the issue is user error.
    After lockups constantly I went through in Safe Mode and limited the startup programs until I tried the ZA True Vector. Now it's running smooth. I found numerous posts all over regarding MSE and ZA. I don't use a Virtual PC. So I am listening. Whats MY error?????
    I don't use Virutal PC either. I use VirtualBox for my VM needs. The VM consists of Windows XP SP3 with all current patches installed. I use snapshots so that I can go back to previous versions. So currently it is running MSE, I use that on all my systems at home. I installed ZA and the install went without a hitch. I can restart the VM without a problem. No lockups at all.

    What is your error? Something you have done to your OS that is causing the lockup. I don't know what it is. My point is that you cannot blame MSE for the problem. You said that free is nice if it works. Well, MSE works and it works with ZA. So don't point the finger in the wrong direction.

    Numerous posts "all over" regarding MSE and ZA point to more circumstances of user error.
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  9. HJA
    Posts : 121
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    Here is a response from MS that dates back to Oct 09 from the ZA forum. This trouble as you can see goes back to Vista

    Unfortunately, you will run into problems running MSE with Zone Alarm, due to an issue in Windows Vista and above.
    A possible solution would be to uninstall either Zone Alarm or MSE (I would recommend Zone Alarm, since Windows Vista already has a built in firewall)

    We are actively working to identify a fix for this issue.
    You should not be seeing any issues on Windows XP.

    Sincerely,
    Shiroy Choksey [MSFT]
    Numerous posts "all over" regarding MSE and ZA point to more circumstances of user error.
    This is not something that just happens out of the blue, it is a compatability issue with ZA and MSE. As you can see above it has been about 6 months since the response. I happen to like ZA and will continue to use it. As for blame, if two products don't get along I go with the one I like. As for MSE I have seen good and bad reviews. As I said the problems are well documented. Nuff said. End post. Sorry I offended.
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  10. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #10

    If you like ZA, there are other free anti-virus programs/malware out there other than MSE. Though Windows firewall is good for incoming, it leaves a whole lot to be desired for outgoing. ZA is easy to configure for both incoming and outgoing. You could also try PCTools and Comodo firewalls as an alternative to ZA when your subscription expires.
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