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Windows 7: Mcafee over MSE

09 Sep 2010   #11

Windows 10 Pro x64

Never had MSE remove a critical system file it thought was a virus on thousands of PCs, but McAfee's done it, on two separate occasions, over the past few years. It's also not as good at detection or performance as it once was in it's heyday - there are MANY good products out there better than McAfee nowadays, so it seems like being a sadist when someone is using it without being forced to do so . I know it's an old thread, but it was revived and the topic probably is still worth the discussion, especially now that Intel owns McAfee.

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09 Sep 2010   #12

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers

Hi all
The ONLY way to keep a computer 100% safe is of course NOT TO USE IT --but in the Real World I'd say that the DESIGNER of the OS (I.E Microsoft) is probably the MOST qualified in designing suitable software to protect it.

Previously when MS wasn't interested all sorts of 3rd party vendors leaped in to fill the void but now MS is in the game then IMO MSE is more than sufficient for normal protection.

Mcafee like a lot of other Corporate software got going when they were the only people in the market.

IMO their time is UP -- in any case most corporations who need SECURE PC's won't have any external connection to the Internet for that particular group of PC's and any data that is transferred to those PC's would be very carefully vetted first.

Of course if you are an inveterate user of torrents and dubious warez sites then I doubt whether ANY AV product could keep you reasonably safe in any case.

For the typical home user I suspect that MSE is sufficient - and uses minimal resources too.

My philosopy would be that IF a computer gets infected is THEN to RESTORE from a KNOWN CLEAN IMAGE or re-install the OS.

I would NEVER trust a "cleaned" computer just relying on the AV software to do it.

Using an infected OS to clean itself is as I've said before like putting the Fox in charge of the chickens in the henhouse.

As for INTEL buying Macafee -- not sure what they get out of this since you obviously can't build Malware protection into a CPU which only knows about running machine code instructions. There isn't any OS to protect.

Now if Intel was working on an OS of it's own or even an alternate browser --that's a different matter of course.

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09 Sep 2010   #13

Windows 7 Professional

Microsoft Security Essentials is nice small and comfact with high reliability. Highly recommended in my view!
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09 Sep 2010   #14
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10

NO NO NO....don't get me started on McAfee....

Instead, read this thread I started a bit back when McAfee hosed itself with one of it's "upgrades" and some of my system

McAfee Update (8/9/10) causes win 7 Problems

McAfee missed several things that MSE caught immediately, I trusted MSE waaaay more then McAfee.

Just read the thread, and the comments, then you decide which one is better
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09 Sep 2010   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1

The link that Borg 386 has to the one topic of McAfee has some good stuff in there. I was one to comment in there because I used McAfee through my internet provider for a while. It failed me with in a couple of days and I never used it again. It found 2 hidden Trojans in the system when I did a manual scan. So before that scan was ran, those Trojans were having a party in my system no doubt.
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09 Sep 2010   #16

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

In my time I've Used Norton, McAfee, Bullgaurd, Avast, Avira, AVG and MSE.

I wouldn't have Norton, McAfee or Bullgaurd ever again. They have too much stuff going on and as far as I'm aware hog system resouces. With each one of them I've had a huge virus that has riddled my computer. the last on infact was Bullgaurd, I got some file and then within about 5 minutes nearly all my shortcuts where broken and the computer was going mad.

In all the time I've used, Avast, Avira, AVG and MSE (all free might I add) I've never had a single virus not get caught, or at least that I was aware of. The systems didn't die so I was pleased. AVG give me some gip on Vista and wouldn't update so I scrubbed it. Avast was 100% but I switched to Avira because of good reviews. It too was great. I changed to MSE just becaue I like software to be uniform. I've yet to have a problem with it. I tried the 2.0 beta but had trouble with it switching off.

So for me MSE 1.0 is working away fine. I also scan with Malwarebytes. Both have kept my system ticking over just fine.
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09 Sep 2010   #17


I have to say Mcafee. Since Mcafee was the first to detect the "Here you have" virus, and the first to update its distribution channels with a block/fix. Also, as of right now, MSE still doesn't detect it.

Just sayin'
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10 Sep 2010   #18

Windows 10 Pro x64

MSE has detected this since September 10th (today) with definitions 1.89.1411.0, released at about midnight US Eastern time (so right after the time you posted, basically ).

Encyclopedia entry: Worm:Win32/Visal.B - Learn more about malware - Microsoft Malware Protection Center
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10 Sep 2010   #19

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)

Don't forget that MSE doesn't augment Windows Firewall at all, which protects incoming only, unless one wants to get into some extremely convoluted settings or use a 3rd party tool such as Vista Firewall Control (works in all OS's).
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10 Sep 2010   #20


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
MSE has detected this since September 10th (today) with definitions 1.89.1411.0, released at about midnight US Eastern time (so right after the time you posted, basically ).

Encyclopedia entry: Worm:Win32/Visal.B - Learn more about malware - Microsoft Malware Protection Center
But again, Mcafee knew about it yesterday.
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