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03-14-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 home premium with 64 bit |
MS Security Essentials. Why is it free? Why is this AV program free and how does it compare with Norton? I am looking for a catch here somewhere. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell 546 Inspiron desktop OS Windows 7 home premium with 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon 630 2.8ghz X4 (Quad) Motherboard Dell 780g Memory 8 Gigs of ddr2 at 800 mhz Graphics Card Dell integrated ATI 3200 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays 20" Dell Screen Resolution 1200x1600 Keyboard Dell Mouse Logitech trackball (marble mouse) PSU 300 Watts Dell Case Mini-tower Cooling 3 Fans total at PSU, CPU, and case. Hard Drives Two 1TRB Seagate Barracuda drives with a 32MB cache in raid 1 (Mirrored) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Western Digital 1.5tb external drive (green back-up drive) Cool and quiet! |
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ®™ |
Hi.
While I can't answer your question about why they give it away, I can tell you I prefer it to Norton or AVG, and will never use anything else from now on. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio FZ21Z OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ®™ CPU Intel Core 2 Duo (2.2 GHz) Motherboard Sony (Intel Chipset) Memory 2x 2GB Corsair (667 MHz) Graphics Card NVIDIA 8600M GS (256MB) Sound Card Sigmatel Monitor(s) Displays 15.4" TFT X-Black Screen Resolution 1280x800 Mouse Logitech Anywhere MX Hard Drives Western Digital 300GB Scorpio Black (7200rpm) Internet Speed Sky 5MB |
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit (6.1, Build 7600) |
The catch i think is that you need to have your windows validated as geniune, no modifications of any kind to the operating system, for you to install it for free. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo G450 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit (6.1, Build 7600) CPU Pentium R (Dual Core) T4300 2.1GHz Memory 2GB DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card Intel GMA X4500 Hard Drives 320GB IDE HDD |
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |
There are several free AV programs out there. I prefer MSE to Norton; however, I don't use either of those. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload |
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I liked and used MSE and would have continued to use it. But last week they changed it to only use windows update. ANDit changed my settings to auto download and install. All without telling me it was going to do that.
I removed it from my system and won't reinstall it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell & Acer OS win7 CPU Intel Centrio2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53 GHz & Atom @ 1.63 GHz Motherboard Dell & Acer Memory 4 GB & 2GB Graphics Card ATI |
03-15-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit |
Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A785-M Memory 4GB A-Data DDR2 Graphics Card PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 Case ASUS Cooling Corsair Builder Series CX V2 500-Watt Hard Drives 250GB Western Digital WD2500JB (IDE) - Main
164GB Western Digital WD1600AAJS (SATA) - Multimedia/DL's Internet Speed 3 Mbps/768 kbps |
03-15-2010
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#7 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit,Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit,Windows XP sp3 home |

Quote: Originally Posted by 546 Inspiron Why is this AV program free and how does it compare with Norton? I am looking for a catch here somewhere.  the best explaination IMHO...is here... http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/mse_beta.asp Quote: Why MSE?
Microsoft created MSE to address a very simple problem: Far too many PCs are unprotected with out-of-date anti-malware products. The company tells me there are a number of reasons for this. First, because many new PCs come with only time-limited security solutions, some users believe they're protected even though the initial subscription period may have ended. Some don't even activate the free, bundled solutions at all. Some--especially those in emerging markets--can't or won't pay for security suites, most of which need to be renewed every year.
Meanwhile, the security landscape is evolving. The impact and severity of security threats is increasing and is becoming more professional, with many malware outbreaks aimed specifically at financial fraud. Security software vendors are constantly adapting their products to meet these evolving needs, but these products are often complex and increasingly address a number of non-security tasks.
So MSE comes into this world and is designed to address the needs of users who are often not protected, for one reason or another. From a broad perspective, MSE works side-by-side with Microsoft's other security technologies, including those built into Windows and accessory products like the Malicious Software Removal Tool, but adding the crucial element of real time protection. It is based on the same trusted and well-regarded security engine that is used by Microsoft's Forefront line of products. It is incredibly easy to install and use. And, perhaps best of all, it is almost completely innocuous: Unlike the OneCare product it replaces, MSE is small and light and runs quietly in the background with a nary a chatty pop-up to be found. Finally, Microsoft has gotten client security right.
Oh, and it's absolutely free. As long as you have an activated, known-good (i.e. "Genuine") copy of Windows XP, Vista, or 7, you're good to go. Microsoft Security Essentials is just part of the package, a perk for users of Microsoft's modern Windows versions. And unlike other free solutions, Microsoft won't use MSE as a vehicle for up-sell. It just does what it does, and it will never prompt you to purchase a Pro version or whatever. There's no registration, no information collection, no annual worry. You install it and forget it, and it keeps you safe. as for MSE vis-i-vis Norton...free v/s paid etc ....the good...the bad....the rants have had their fare share......read at leisure Rivals mock Microsoft Security Essentials download - Techworld.com Can Microsoft Security Essentials beat Norton? | PC Pro blog Symantec Rant Against Microsoft Security Essentials Backfires - Other security professionals say the product is decent or pretty good - Softpedia Microsoft Security Essentials? | ESET ThreatBlog
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| My System Specs | | OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit,Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit,Windows XP sp3 home |
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Product FRED Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig. Actually the new versions of NIS is rated as one of the best.
Very low system impact, low false positive rate, and very high virus and spyware detection rate. In fact, it will outperform most other AV suites now.
As far MSE goes, its very good for a free AV. But Windows must be validated and flagged as genuine to install & use it
IMHO:
MSE is good and its free.
Norton does alot better job, with both viruses & spyware and seldom has a false positive.
However, it is obviously not free.
If you are looking for a free AV, MSE is a good choice.
If looking to purchase a suite, NIS 2010 is certainly worth looking into to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
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Reason for free..... It is in MS's best interest to make Windows secure. They have had such a reputation for security holes and viruses that it makes sense. | My System Specs | | |
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / Windows XP Professional x86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Product FRED Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig.
Yeah.... I'll have to disagree with you on this one. Norton was not up to scratch for a few versions 5 or 6 years ago, but since then have improved tremendously. Being a Norton 360 user since version 1, every edition has improved over the last. Maybe one of the lightest running suites on the market at the moment.
MSE is Microsoft's attempt to clean the net up a little bit. Not everyone can afford a paid suite. I read somewhere Microsoft is really targeting MSE to underprivileged areas of the world so everyone can have some sort of reliable protection.
A good move by Microsoft in my opinion. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P300 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / Windows XP Professional x86 CPU Intel Centrino Dual Core P7450 2.13GHz Memory 4gb Graphics Card ATI Mobility Raedon HD3650 Hard Drives Toshiba MK3252GSX ATA Internet Speed Wish it were faster MS Security Essentials. Why is it free? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 AM. |  |