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Windows 7: Windows outbound firewall implementation


01 May 2010   #11

Windows 7
 
 

No wonder I am confused. I just got 2 responses. One said
"It is not a separate firewall; it is a controller for Windows firewall. It works well and is safe"
and the other said
"It is a separate firewall but uses the same interface to the kernel.
Here is a note from their web site. If you liked Zone Alarm you will like it."

I did like Zone Alarm and so far I like this one too. BUT I was always told not to run 2 firewalls at the same time.


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01 May 2010   #12

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
No wonder I am confused. I just got 2 responses. One said
"It is not a separate firewall; it is a controller for Windows firewall. It works well and is safe"
and the other said
"It is a separate firewall but uses the same interface to the kernel.
Here is a note from their web site. If you liked Zone Alarm you will like it."

I did like Zone Alarm and so far I like this one too. BUT I was always told not to run 2 firewalls at the same time.
It can be considered a separate firewall and in fact you can totally disable Win 7 firewall. As mentioned, Windows 7 Firewall Control uses Windows Filtering Platform as does a few other network protection software such as Malware Defender. One benefit of Windows 7 Firewall Control is the outbound prompts.
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01 May 2010   #13
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Windows 7 Firewall Control works independently from the Windows 7 Firewall. It does grab the configuration at startup but does not communicate with the firewall after that.
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02 May 2010   #14

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

The only problem I have with Windows 7 Firewall Control is the Action Center does not see it and if I turn off Windows Firewall it shows an alarm. So I just keep Windows Firewall turned on also. Along with my router I now have 3 incoming firewalls.

Don't you just love the sound it makes on an alert.

Jim
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02 May 2010   #15

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
The only problem I have with Windows 7 Firewall Control is the Action Center does not see it and if I turn off Windows Firewall it shows an alarm. So I just keep Windows Firewall turned on also. Along with my router I now have 3 incoming firewalls.

Don't you just love the sound it makes on an alert.

Jim
Yes, I'm not in favor of the Action Center thingy myself. I think at one time, it did register itself as being the installed firewall on Vista OS. About the sound alert, the latest version offers the choice to disable it, yea I did,lol.
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02 May 2010   #16

Windows 7
 
 

Well, since "Windows 7 Firewall Control" is really a separate firewall (that plays nicely with Windows 7's own firewall) that begs the question: is it the best choice of free firewall to be used in W 7? For instance, I've noticed that unlike Zone Alarm (that I used in XP), it (at least the free version) does not keep logs of what it blocked or did not block. Also, I am not sure it stealthes or controls the ports like ZA did.
I've heard that ZA and Comodo both have problems in W 7 and I know this is a matter of opinion but I wonder what most people use to control outbound traffic since writing Windows 7 outbound rules is a pain.
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02 May 2010   #17

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
Well, since "Windows 7 Firewall Control" is really a separate firewall (that plays nicely with Windows 7's own firewall) that begs the question: is it the best choice of free firewall to be used in W 7? For instance, I've noticed that unlike Zone Alarm (that I used in XP), it (at least the free version) does not keep logs of what it blocked or did not block. Also, I am not sure it stealthes or controls the ports like ZA did.
I've heard that ZA and Comodo both have problems in W 7 and I know this is a matter of opinion but I wonder what most people use to control outbound traffic since writing Windows 7 outbound rules is a pain.
It's the best choice for me. Well actually the built-in firewall is the best choice for me but here's what happened. I installed the Plus version trial and used it's info to set up the rules for the built-in firewall and I did. It just so happened, I liked the plus version so much that I bought it. The plus version has a blocked.log which is kept in the Windows7FirewallControl folder. Wishlist would be to have access to it from the tray icon menu or ability to view it from within the control panel dialog. Most things that are blocked, you'll be presented with the popup dialog which gives you the option of applying the default which is fairly decent or you can select from another zone or you can make your own zone and use it.

On a side note, if you want similar protection that ZA or Comodo offers, meaning the addition of HIPS with their firewalls, then Malware Defender would be a great choice. Malware Defender 2.7 has just now gone free for everyone. It uses Window Filtering Platform for it's network protection but in addition to that you have alot more protection system wide with detailed logs.
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02 May 2010   #18

Windows 7
 
 

Thank you very much. I am unfamiliar with Malware Defender and will therefore take a look at it even though I like Windows7FirewallControl and like you may buy the plus version. But I will look at Malware Defender first.
Thanks for the advice.
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02 May 2010   #19

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
Thank you very much. I am unfamiliar with Malware Defender and will therefore take a look at it even though I like Windows7FirewallControl and like you may buy the plus version. But I will look at Malware Defender first.
Thanks for the advice.
If you really want the best and solid protection; buy a router, even if you only have one computer. A router's hardware firewall is vastly superior to any software firewall. However, you will still need a software firewall if you choose to monitor outgoing.
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02 May 2010   #20

Windows 7
 
 

You're absolutely right. I am on a home network behind a router. Always have been. It's not that I am paranoid, I just like to know who is sending stuff out from my PC <g>. Since using Windows7FirewallControl I "discovered" that Windows Media Player (which I never use) was attempting to reach the internet and stopped it. Maybe I'm a control freak, but I do not like things happening behind my back. (I've already turned off most of the Windows call home items I do not need).
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