| Windows 7: Which is the best? |
21 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1 Pennsylvania |
Which is the best? A friend of mine the other day asked me which was the best: NIS 2010 or MSE.
Since they both are good, I could't really decide.
I tried comparing pros and cons but that didn't work either. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUSTeK Computer Inc./U56E/Laptop OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Memory 6,144.00 GB Hard Drives Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 Internet Speed Verizon High-Speed |
22 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by codyw A friend of mine the other day asked me which was the best: NIS 2010 or MSE.
Since they both are good, I could't really decide.
I tried comparing pros and cons but that didn't work either.  Its easy whichever you will use ALL the time. There is a thread like this about once a week and we always seem to have everyone with a different opinion. You could search the previous threads for every ones preferences if you are inclined.
I analyze BSOD's and have seen MANY caused by NIS so I wouldn't recommend that. MSE is lightweight but works and doesn't seem to cause crashes.
I personally use something else.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
22 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Same here as a rule. On the main case I'll be found running the VIPRE Premium which includes a firewall for that retail software. Quite effective at that. But that's just another "opinion" from observing it in use here.
On an old build 6-7yrs. I'm going through I just added the beta 2 version of the MS SEesentials now available for download over at connect. That you have to sign up for in order to participate in the beta program however. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
22 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
I think MSE uses less resources, integrates well with windows, isn't intrusive, and, oh year, it's free
A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
22 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The one I have on now is also quite light on resources but you pay for the 2yr. license while still reasonable. My only complaint with the MS SE was no detection when a trojan was being placed on the driive. When scanning later it came up.
With the retail program the entire site it came from would have been blocked from view entirely. But that has the additional protection layer in it being a retail product. The old av here even when being disabled in the mscnfig sprang to life when something was put on some time ago but would never offer the same for that other option while the MS SE did find this one.
Differences are common between each as well as what they actually cover. The best advice anyone can pass along is getting familiar with multiple layers and not putting all confidences into any one program by itself as unfortunately many do. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
22 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android Mauritius |
NIS is better than MSE, it contains many additional features not included in MSE | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775 Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX Sound Card Supreme FX2 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Prolink keyboard Mouse Prolink optical mouse PSU Cooler Master GX 650W Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung Internet Speed 1MiB/s Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System |
22 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy I think MSE uses less resources, integrates well with windows, isn't intrusive, and, oh year, it's free
A Guy I agree with all points. Microsoft has really made paid security software rather moot these days. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
22 Jul 2010
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#8 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit,Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit,Windows XP sp3 home |

Quote: Originally Posted by codyw A friend of mine the other day asked me which was the best: NIS 2010 or MSE. simply put... the one that works for you.... or your friend in this case sermon:
but if you want third party firewall/password manager/the norton insights/quorums/secret sauce/sonars and are willing to shell $$$ year after year then -NIS
however...if you are willing to have a no nonsense..no frills... yet pretty effective av that's free then- MSE | My System Specs | | OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit,Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit,Windows XP sp3 home |
22 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit) + Service Pack 1 Las Vegas, NV |
I'm laughing because I didn't immediately know what NIS and MSE were referring to;
Looks like I'm avoiding both....
Guessing Norton and M$ products for protection, yeah easy skip based on reputations that to me are unforgivable in these areas.
M$=bloat
Norton=bloat
bloat=lagged PC
lagged PC=unhappy user
unhappy user=  
thus M$ & Norton fare=
I've been avoiding those brands for this for years....
Passwords wise, snag KeePass Password Safe (free) and awesome! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit) + Service Pack 1 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 8G CAS7 G-Skill PC3-10664 (2 fours) [mobo nonOC max rec'd] Graphics Card Radeon HD 7950 [3 gigs of GDDR5] MSI Twin Frozr model Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio (onboard mobo, CL-889) Monitor(s) Displays 2 WS LED Monitors: Viewsonic (portait) and LG (landscape) Screen Resolution 1920 by 1080 Keyboard Logitech K310 Washable keyboard Mouse iHome Fast (600/1200 dpi) mouse PSU Corsair TX850 Case Thermaltake Armor A90 Cooling Thermaltake Spin Q CPU Cooler Hard Drives SSD for OS: Adata SX900
7200 RPM Sata HDs for the rest: Hitachi and Seagate Internet Speed 50 Megabit broadband (Cable co.) Antivirus Webroot + Malwarebytes' Anti-malware & Spybot for scanning. Browser Firefox, Maxthon, Safari, and Opera Other Info D-Link Network card in one PCI slot after on-board had some issues, card resolved, and never looked back.
Recently added a Smart TV and discovered that my 7950 can't add it as a running 3rd monitor, at same time: bummer! |
22 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by JonM33 
Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy I think MSE uses less resources, integrates well with windows, isn't intrusive, and, oh year, it's free
A Guy I agree with all points. Microsoft has really made paid security software rather moot these days. The working set of MSE is rather large. NIS 2010 is much smaller. It may not matter, but it is a point to retain.
In the professional AV comparisons, NIS2010 gets much higher marks than MSE. At least in the ones I have seen. See example below - NIS2010 is under Symantec.
I use both (on different systems). I never had trouble with NIS, but some with MSE. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Which is the best? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 AM. | |