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Windows 7: Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create

09 Nov 2009   #40
scubasteve

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit
 
 

Works like a charm. Thanks much.


That said, I find it bizarre that we must resort to such a convoluted method. I really expected to be able to just right-click on either the exe or a shortcut, select run as administrator, and be done with it.


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09 Nov 2009   #41
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

You're welcome Steve.

Run as administrator is what is triggering UAC to ask you for permission to allow it to run elevated first. If you had UAC turned off, logged into the built-in Administrator account, or not using "run as administrator"; you would also not get the UAC prompt. However, you wouldn't get the UAC prompt for anything either which could pose a security risk.
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09 Nov 2009   #42
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mkarias1 View Post
Thanks. OK, I tried this again via the Admin account. I carefully followed all the steps but once I try to run the task via shortcut, I get the following message: Failed to load url of version.ini. I even tried to run the task via the task scheduler and got the same error message.

I deleted the short cut and task and redid this and still got the same message. Any ideas? The game does work fine using the standard shortcut.

I am trying to do for CrossFire (free online FPS game). Thanks!
What program do you have to be started in step 7 for the task? Is it the normal shortcut that you use to start the game?
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09 Nov 2009   #43
scubasteve

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit
 
 

Ahhh...thanks for the clarification Brink. I definitely want UAC in general. I just wanted to be able to configure a particular instance of a shortcut for when I don't want it. The soln here is very creative...but seems to indicate that MS is somehow missing the boat somewhere. Regardless, thanks much. I would have never guessed this approach.
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09 Nov 2009   #44
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

No problem Steve.
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10 Nov 2009   #45
mkarias1

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote:
What program do you have to be started in step 6 for the task? Is it the normal shortcut that you use to start the game?
Sorry, I don't understand.

Step 6 just states: Under "Action", select Start a program and click on the Browse button. (See screenshot below). I have done this.

Are you referring to step 7? I am going into the game's folder and choosing the .exe file that normally starts the game.

Thank you
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10 Nov 2009   #46
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Mkarias,

I'm not sure what that error is for. Since it is an online game, it may be part of the issue and may not work with this.
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12 Nov 2009   #47
Philip Goddard

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
You're welcome Steve.

Run as administrator is what is triggering UAC to ask you for permission to allow it to run elevated first. If you had UAC turned off, logged into the built-in Administrator account, or not using "run as administrator"; you would also not get the UAC prompt. However, you wouldn't get the UAC prompt for anything either which could pose a security risk.
(Sigh!) YES! THAT is why I recently and reluctantly turned UAC completely off. UAC didn't behave that perversely for me in Vista, and I just struggled along with UAC tamed by Norton UAC and UAC Snooze. Unfortunately in Win7 those two utilities cannot be used (the Norton simply refuses to install and UAC Snooze doesn't recognise the middle settings, so switches UAC either full on or full off). My whole point of elevating a program with 'run as administrator' is to avoid having UAC prompts when I run it, and, in some cases like my file manager (FreeCommander - the best!), the program being able to carry out file operations sometimes in system folders. For me as an actual computer user, it's completely perverse that to elevate a program's permissions actually causes it to elicit UAC prompts.

I did try the neat trick using the Scheduler to elevate particular programs, but I found that this resulted in a small delay when each program that was 'elevated' in that way was run - obviously because another program was being run first. A small issue, but tending over time to raise the stress level of working at the computer. Also, UAC (on upper middle setting) still caused problems with some programs, including ongoing nuisances with certain of my startup programs. I came to the conclusion that the general nuisance and stress caused by UAC and the methods used to 'elevate' programs was a bigger price to pay than the notional reduction in system security through turning UAC off (I'm very security conscious and have various layers of security, so UAC is for me not the big deal that it would be for the average Win7 user).

I'll consider restoring UAC if / when something like Norton UAC is available for Win7 and UAC Snooze is updated to work with Win7 - or such time as the Win7 developers actually change UAC so that it works properly for the user rather than against the user. So far they have not shown broad based intelligence on the subject - clearly thinking just of security and not of the needs of actual human beings who have to use this Behemoth of an operating system. The two middle settings for UAC are in my view just a lip-service to those who protested about UAC's obstructiveness in Vista, but the developers lacked the good sense to actually rewrite that part of Windows to behave completely differently - in particular using some sort of user accessible whitelist and blacklist of programs and processes.
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12 Nov 2009   #48
wooleysdad

Windows 7 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Brink - Thanks very much. I guess having a switch to say "always allow" would be too easy to blithely accept. This is a pleasure. Gotta have pain to appreciate the relief.
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13 Nov 2009   #49
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

You're most welcome Wooleysdad.
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