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Windows 7: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

15 Oct 2011   #120
Kari

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaysJimlad View Post
Kari, what you have offered in this tutorial is just what I have been looking for. It seems to be much simpler than a lot of other offerings.
I am a little nervous but with a saved image, I should get there if anything goes wrong.

As you will see below I have just done a re install and although you say it can be done at the re installed state, I am going to go back and re install again following your tutorial from the begining.

You say "If you don’t have a second internal hard disk or you have not created and formatted an empty partition on your system disk,"

I note the word 'empty'. I have created a partition for my Windows 7 home premium O/S - 'C' and another partition on the same drive (1Tb) for my 'Users' folder plus anything else I wish to park there. Prior to re installing my O/S I located some of my data I didn't want to lose due to the re install/format. Is this a problem as the 'D' partition isn't empty?
I have another 1Tb drive and a slower older 500Gb drive where I could copy and paste the data I have on the 'D' drive.

What happens with this revised installation when you re install again, does the system try to set up the complete O/S on the new 'C' drive?
Do you need to carry out the whole tutorial again?

Regards

JaysJimlad

Hi JaysJimland, welcome to the Seven Forums.

No, the drive must not be empty. Important is it does not have any Windows system folders, for instance from another windows setup in a dual / multiboot system.

Reinstalling Windows "resets" environment variables, so you have to repeat this process every time you reinsyall. That's why I recommend creating a full system image including the drive where you set the userprofiles after installation is finished, before any apps are installed. This way, instead of reinstalling you can just restore the image. I use Macrium for these images.

Good luck, I hope this works for you. Me this system has served well.

Kari


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15 Oct 2011   #121
JaysJimlad

Windows 7 Home Premium x 64
 
 

Thanks Kari,

I appreciate your prompt reply.

Will be a few days before I can give it a go. Will Post how I get on.

JaysJimlad
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17 Oct 2011   #122
JaysJimlad

Windows 7 Home Premium x 64
 
 
Kari Tutorial to Relocate User Folders during Windows 7 installation.

I have two further questions where I desparatly need help as a relative ‘Newby’
Question 1 - On page 4 of the tutorial it says “Open Windows Notepad text editor (Start menu > Accesories > Notepad). Type the following script, or copy it from here and paste to Notepad (script created with Windows System Image Manager):
I have followed the link by clicking’ on the blue wording above and read and re read the information/data but I find it very difficult to know what I need to do to effectively copy and paste the data shown on page 5 of the tutorial. Has anyone got a tutorial that shows how to carry out the requirements for this requirement? It clearly is essential as all normal files/systems are not available during re installation.
Question 2 – on my system after a re install I need to re load the drivers for my Asus M4A87TD evo Motherboard.
With this process of Relocating User Folders during Windows 7 installation, is there a need to have loaded these drivers prior to any of the steps in the tutorial or will it be acceptable to load them after completing the tutorial steps? I know I can’t get on line until these drivers have been loaded.
Thanks
JaysJimlad
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17 Oct 2011   #123
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

It might be that I have explained this a bit confusing in the tutorial, so let's try again:

What I mean with copy / paste the script is that it's a PITA to type it so copying and pasting is easier. The way I do it is that I have the script copied on a USB stick; when starting the process I just plug USB stick in, then open the script from stick in Notepad and edit as I need. The blue text is just an explaining link to What is Windows System Image Manager?, an article on Microsoft TechNet that explains what Windows System Image Manager is.

If you have no internet access when in Audit Mode, no problem. Just type the script in Notepad, or as mentioned above, copy and paste. If you have internet access as normally is the case, you can even install PDF reader, access Seven Forums, open the tutorial and copy the script from there.

When I find some time, I taking the PDF tutorial away and re-creating this as a normal Seven Forums tutorial. As it is now, it's only available as a PDF. Sorry for any inconvenient.

Kari
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17 Oct 2011   #124
JaysJimlad

Windows 7 Home Premium x 64
 
 

Thank you again for your prompt reply. I think it is me not having the knowledge to apply your instructions - sorry.
Just to make sure I have fully understood your response I am assuming that the PITA which was in uppercase is a typo for PITY and not an acronym for something?
Yes I do want to be able to copy and paste the data so I don’t end up making mistakes.
So if I drag & drop all the data I need onto my USB stick so I can copy and paste it for the various parts of the tutorial?
So I start by plugging the USB stick into my desktop, before I introduce the Windows 7 O/S DVD, restart the PC, follow the tutorial and when required I will be able to access the USB stick by opening Notepad, to copy the required data, return to the tutorial and paste it in as required? This means that Notepad is available, presumably from the Windows 7 O/S DVD, as my previous O/S installation will have been formatted? I will NOT have Internet access as I said above as I have to re install my Motherboard driver’s to get on-line. I note you did not comment on my 2nd question on the best time in the process/tutorial to install these drivers. With no access to the internet I would not be able to download PDF Reader, so the USB stick seems to be my only option.
I find it very interesting to find out that it is possible to access the internet part way through a re install of the O/S.
You have not caused me any inconvenience on the contrary you are a great help and comfort to me in achieving meeting the final result in moving my ‘Users’ Folder.
Thanking you for your patience with me.
JaysJimlad
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17 Oct 2011   #125
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 



PITA was meant to be short of Pain In The A**...

Notepad will be available when you enter Audit Mode. At least wired Internet connection has been available every time I have done this, on various computers, for Windows 7 normally installs at least LAN if also not Wifi drivers already before you have installed your motherboard specific chipset drivers.

My recommendation, the easy way of doing this:
  • Copy the script from tutorial, paste it to Notepad
  • Save Notepad text file to a USB stick
  • Print the tutorial PDF
  • When re-installing, follow instructions on your paper copy of the tutorial to enter Audit Mode
  • When in Audit Mode, plug your USB stick in
  • Open the script file with Notepad, edit if needed
  • Continue following the tutorial
Kari
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17 Oct 2011   #126
JaysJimlad

Windows 7 Home Premium x 64
 
 

Thank you for the 'PITA' explanation, I did know that acronym, but I did have my mind on getting to grips with the tutorial. I had a good laugh at myself.
The simple explanation re loading and using the USB stick was great.

Is there a point before or just after entering Audit Mode where I could safely load my mother board driver's and then plug in my USB stick?

When I did my first Win 7 re-install recently, i noticed that I did not get any internet connection. My system was not seeing my Netgear router. I went into Device Manager and there was not a 'Network Adaptor' listing. It went from 'Monitors' to 'Portable Devices'. As soon as I loaded the drivers I was up and running with Internet availability.

If you have no experience of this issue, your thoughts on where in your tutorial to try and load the drivers would be of great help. From your comments it seems necesssary to have an internet connection to access Notpad!!


Thanking you yet again.

JaysJimlad
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17 Oct 2011   #127
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

NO NO!

I notice I'm getting really lousy on explaining things. Let's try a new approach.

The whole Notepad and USB stick -thing is meant to be like a Plan B if you do not get internet connection when entering Audit Mode. Notepad is a built-in Windows application, meant to be used in creating and editing small text files. If you get internet connection it's still a practical method, although then you can alternatively just install a PDF reader, go to this tutorial and open the PDF, then copy the script to Notepad, edit as needed and save it. A little bit more work but no need for a USB stick.

In Audit Mode you can install anything you want to. If you so wish, you can install all your drivers, apps and games before running the script to relocate user profiles. It's just that according to my own experience, the possibility this method NOT TO work for you increases with everything you do for your Windows before running the script. That's why I only do it for a totally virgin Windows setup in Audit Mode, installing all third party drivers and apps only after the script has run and Windows first time booted to the normal mode.

Kari
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18 Oct 2011   #128
JaysJimlad

Windows 7 Home Premium x 64
 
 

I think I have now got what you are advising. As I know I will not have an internet connection I will set my self up for the USB method. I too want to do as little as possible to my virgin installation prior to moving the 'Users' folder.

A thought has just occured to me, as I have three drives I had intended to didconnect two of the drives to make sure there was no cross interferance from anything stored on them. One of these drives I feel very confident nothing is on them but simple personal data. Could I download PDF Reader and Notepad with the required data instead of using a USB stick?

Thanks again

JaysJimlad
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18 Oct 2011   #129
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

OK, one more try: Notepad is built-in small application of Windows, you do not need to download or install it. When in audit Mode, you will find it in Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories, or simply by pressing Windows Key + R on your keyboard, typing Notepad to dialog that opens and hitting Enter.

And yes, you can download PDF reader and this PDF tutorial prior to re-install and save them to USB. Then in Audit Mode, simply install PDF Reader and open the tutorial. and yes, you can use your extra drive instead of the USB stick.

Kari
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